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joli6

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Hole on new driveway... is it normal?

I had a new concrete driveway done in July 2007, I also had it sealed. By Spring I have had a lot of holes coming out anywhere from 1" to 3". Is this normal?


flibby3655
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Lompoc, CA
No, that is not normal. Can you post pictures?


joli6

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Yes, I'll take pictures this weekend and post them.


sdgthy

@optonline.net
Sounds like it wasn't properly air-entrained.


joli6

@comcast.net

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Hello,
Okay, I'm attaching some photos of the holes I took of my driveway. These holes are all over my driveway. Does anyone know what I need to do to get this rectified. Any advise will be greatly appreciated. Thanks again


Mchart
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reply to joli6
That is definatly normal if you have used a snow plow on it, or even did some shovelling on it. I don't know where you are located but from the pictures I can see a locust tree loosing it's leaves in preperation for the winter.
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DataDoc
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reply to joli6
Does every hole have one of those white objects in the bottom? If so, maybe they're inclusions that absorbed water, causing the spalding.

robbin
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Leander, TX
It looks to me like a poor quality of aggregate was used. The white objects are a soft rock which expands when it absorbs water. Proper aggregate should not contain such "rock".


no_one

@QWEST.NET
reply to joli6
Do not live near snow so nothing about plowing.

Just almost looks like a top coat of concrete applied over a base of concrete. More than likely wrong so just a guess.

Korro

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reply to joli6
Have you used Salt for De-icing...mine did the same thing...but then again mine is over 20 years old. That almost looks like the used gravel from a gravel driveway instead of aggrigate they were supposed to do. I would call the person who did this and demand they talk to the cement company. I would be very mad at this.


3SGTE
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reply to joli6
The most common cause of spalling like that is a driveway that was allowed to dry too rapidly after being poured.

If the surface dries before it cures, you will see similar to what is in the pictures.

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TODarling
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said by 3SGTE See Profile :

The most common cause of spalling like that is a driveway that was allowed to dry too rapidly after being poured.

If the surface dries before it cures, you will see similar to what is in the pictures.

I agree with this. Also how long did you let it cure before driving on it?
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CylonRed
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Bloom County
A good while and covered so it does not dry to fast. I want to say a week at least and it looks like up to 3 weeks from here:

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concrete#Curing


flibby3655
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From Paver Concrete Distress Manual. This manual is used by Public Works and airports to guage the condition of their pavement.
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joli6

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So given what was shown from my photos, what should I ask the concrete company to do? Can they do anything?


flibby3655
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October 8th, @04:30PM

said by joli6 :

So given what was shown from my photos, what should I ask the concrete company to do? Can they do anything?
I really don't think they will do anything. However, that's my opinion. Doesn't hurt to ask. If you would like a clearer picture, I can try to rescan the book.

Edit: BTW where do you live?


joli6

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In Illinois


flibby3655
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Lompoc, CA

said by joli6 :

In Illinois
So it's safe to say you get freeze/thaw conditions. The reason I stated that I don't think they will do any thing about it is whenever I've had problems concerning concrete finish. The batch plant will say it's the finishers that screwed up then the finishers blame the batch plant and it never really seems to end. Especially if the contractor has been paid and any amount of time has passed.


Warzau
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Naperville, IL
clubs:
Safe, holy crap on a stick, we sure do. You should see my driveway and others in my neighborhood, all different builders. Last 2 winters have been bad.


flibby3655
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October 8th, @05:48PM

said by Warzau See Profile :

Safe, holy crap on a stick, we sure do. You should see my driveway and others in my neighborhood, all different builders. Last 2 winters have been bad.
If the concrete all came from the same batch plant using the same aggregate source, you and your neighbors may be able to go after the batch plant. We use mix designs when putting bids out, then have the mix tested during the pour.
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