boatman9
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| Is firmware change easy for 5851 and 2200 SDSL modems?
I'm looking to acquire a pair of 5851 or 2200 SDSL modems for use in back-to-back mode. I see that not just any model will do, but it must be one such as the 5851-005 which is made for point-to-point applications.
This is my question; If I get a related model such as the 5851-001, is it easy to change the firmware to make it a 5851-005? |
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| From my limited understanding, it is the having the correct ASIC file and the right Models to make it work.
Along with the 120-5851-005, the 060-5851-031 can also be used.
Firmware can be updated using multiple paths. You can use the Configuration Manager. Or TFTP, or Telnet.
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said by boatman9  :I'm looking to acquire a pair of 5851 or 2200 SDSL modems for use in back-to-back mode.  5851-005_pair.pdf 171239 bytes
Efficient Networks 5851-005 SDSL Router Pair Point-to-Point Setup
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said by Doctor Olds :Along with the 120-5851-005, the 060-5851-031 can also be used. Will 060-5851-055 work in B2B service? Is there a chart or something describing the various 10-digit model numbers?
Would things be simpler if I used a pair of Netopia R7100-C SDSL Routers? I can work with tftp etc, but would be interested if there was a model that could be easily configured for B2B using the web interface. |
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| Well, many sellers don't know how to turn on the router, so when I'm shopping for a -005 can I assume that all -005 models will have 5851-005 labeled on the exterior?
Thanks for the pointers and pdf link. I had actually found and read all those documents and more before posting, but thanks just the same. I didn't see anything that said we can flash an -002 to be an -005, so it's be my guess that this is not easily possibly.
The model description reference document I've found is rebrand.pdf. It lists 8 variants of the 5851. |
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| said by boatman9 :Well, many sellers don't know how to turn on the router, so when I'm shopping for a -005 can I assume that all -005 models will have 5851-005 labeled on the exterior? So currently you have no 5851s at all? Yes, all Speedstreams have their Model Number and Part Number on the bottom of the unit. Flip them over.
said by boatman9 :Thanks for the pointers and pdf link. I had actually found and read all those documents and more before posting, but thanks just the same. I didn't see anything that said we can flash an -002 to be an -005, so it's be my guess that this is not easily possibly. We must not be reading the same links then.
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said by okitismine :
1, only the Nokia compatible 5851's will work. 001/002/005 .....
2. yes you need kernel and asic to make it work.
The required scripts.
Connecting Two Routers Back-to-back [Goes to link at kb.efficient.com]
5851 Point-to-Point Setup Instructions [Goes to link at kb.efficient.com]
said by okitismine :
The oo5 was built for back to back apps. The oo2 use the same asic. What is the distance from router, The 005 will operate at 2.3 but the 002 will only operate at 1.152. Try setting the speed to 768 or auto.
Or get two 5851-005 so you can have the faster link speeds.
said by boatman9 :The model description reference document I've found is rebrand.pdf. It lists 8 variants of the 5851. Rebrand.PDF does not include their entire line coverage, it was for a different purpose. This image below is taken from the Release Notes seen with every firmware version release.
The 5851 Firmware Page, Documentation Page and location for the Configuration Manager to load the scripts.
Efficient Networks 5851 - Broadband Internet Router Page [Goes to link at kb.efficient.com]
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| said by Doctor Olds :So currently you have no 5851s at all? Yes, all Speedstreams have their Model Number and Part Number on the bottom of the unit. I have no xDSL modems of any brand at this time. I intend to buy two for experimenting with a twisted pair connection over a 1km distance.
I had found the kb.efficient.com site and got some stuff there, but it went off line late yesterday just as I was about to download 5851 kernels. Fortunately it came back on line today and I got some kernels.
There is a model 060-5851-055 I could buy, but it's not listed on any docs I can find. From the '060' I can tell it's RapidSecure, but that all I know about it so far. |
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| said by boatman9 :There is a model 060-5851-055 I could buy, but it's not listed on any docs I can find. From the '060' I can tell it's RapidSecure, but that all I know about it so far. Why would you want to buy a 5851 that isn't going to work for back to back setup?
eBay has:
Speedstream 5851 SDSL Router Modem 120-5851-001
»cgi.ebay.com/Speedstream-5851-SD···20.l1116
That puts you halfway there.
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