ReneM
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Cockeysville, MD | reply to hottboiinnc
Re: I like this
Since when is copyright infringement a crime? |
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TKJunkMail
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| said by ReneM  :Since when is copyright infringement a crime? Since the Congress made it so and when the President signed the bill. |
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heliox
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If you suspected or caught me doing something to harm your store - yes.
Your analogy is so flawed, it's laughable.
If you saw me buying a screw driver, rope and tape, and thought I was going to go rob someone - absolutely not.
YOU ARE NOT THE POLICE.
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heliox
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So do I.
A private organization alleging something to another private organization about my online behavior, is absurd.
If there is anything illegal going on, the ***a should get a subpoena for my usage records, and file suit with me.
The way I see it, COX doesn't like
1) hassle
2) bandwidth usage
It is so much easier to send a couple letters, and flip a switch.
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heliox
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Wrong...
It's always at least a civil matter (a tort). 17 U.S.C. 501(b) details
the mechanisms by which an owner of a copyright may file a civil suit,
and 28 U.S.C. 1338 expressly refers to civil actions arising under the
copyright act.
However, under certain circumstances, it may also be a federal crime. A
copyright infringement is subject to criminal prosecution if infringement
is willful and for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial
gain. 17 U.S.C. 506(a). If the offense consists of the reproduction or
distribution, during any 180-day period, of 10 or more copies having a
retail value of more than $2,500, the offense is a felony; otherwise, the
offense is a misdemeanor. 18 U.S.C. 2319.
www.stason.org
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KrK
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said by NormanS :I used to run the night shift of a convenience store. We provided a "service". Does that mean I did not have the right to eject a certain person? Acting very suspicious in the vicinity of my liquor display. Been there, done that.
Sad thing is, if you do throw someone out, they call Corporate and complain (and lie their asses off) and you find out OH, you didn't have the right to do jack squat 
You're responsible for the inventory loss, but you're also not allowed to "inconvenience" a thief. Gotta love suits.
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NormanS
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1 edit | reply to heliox
said by heliox :If you suspected or caught me doing something to harm your store - yes. Your analogy is so flawed, it's laughable. It is not an "analogy", it is a fact of law. And I did order a suspicious fellow out of my store. (Twice, actually; once under the circumstances I outlined, and once for making threats to a women who came onto the premises in a distraught state. Had to call 9-1-1 in the last case).
If you saw me buying a screw driver, rope and tape, and thought I was going to go rob someone - absolutely not.
If I had solid reason to believe that selling you certain merchandise would facilitate a crime, I certainly could refuse to make the sale. I have refused to sell certain merchandise to certain individuals; and not been reprimanded for it.
YOU ARE NOT THE POLICE.
So what. Do an Internet search on "citizen's arrest".
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NormanS
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said by KrK :said by NormanS :I used to run the night shift of a convenience store. We provided a "service". Does that mean I did not have the right to eject a certain person? Acting very suspicious in the vicinity of my liquor display. Been there, done that. As have I. However, I had the support of my "suits" in my case.
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NormanS
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said by heliox :A private organization alleging something to another private organization about my online behavior, is absurd. It is not. It is the basis for spam complaints, and other abuse complaint; and the reason why Abuse Departments exist.
If there is anything illegal going on, the ***a should get a subpoena for my usage records, and file suit with me.
Indeed. If there is an allegation of illegal activity, the matter should be brought to the attention of legal authorities.
In the case that my ISP cut off my Internet over the allegation of committing an illegal act, I'd have my attorney in touch with their legal department: Assuming that I actually have "clean hands".
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| said by NormanS :In the case that my ISP cut off my Internet over the allegation of committing an illegal act, I'd have my attorney in touch with their legal department: Assuming that I actually have "clean hands". Assuming your ISP is also clean...
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