NormanS
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Re: I like this
said by KrK  :said by NormanS :I used to run the night shift of a convenience store. We provided a "service". Does that mean I did not have the right to eject a certain person? Acting very suspicious in the vicinity of my liquor display. Been there, done that. As have I. However, I had the support of my "suits" in my case.
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NormanS
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said by heliox :If you suspected or caught me doing something to harm your store - yes. Your analogy is so flawed, it's laughable. It is not an "analogy", it is a fact of law. And I did order a suspicious fellow out of my store. (Twice, actually; once under the circumstances I outlined, and once for making threats to a women who came onto the premises in a distraught state. Had to call 9-1-1 in the last case).
If you saw me buying a screw driver, rope and tape, and thought I was going to go rob someone - absolutely not.
If I had solid reason to believe that selling you certain merchandise would facilitate a crime, I certainly could refuse to make the sale. I have refused to sell certain merchandise to certain individuals; and not been reprimanded for it.
YOU ARE NOT THE POLICE.
So what. Do an Internet search on "citizen's arrest".
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KrK
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said by NormanS :I used to run the night shift of a convenience store. We provided a "service". Does that mean I did not have the right to eject a certain person? Acting very suspicious in the vicinity of my liquor display. Been there, done that.
Sad thing is, if you do throw someone out, they call Corporate and complain (and lie their asses off) and you find out OH, you didn't have the right to do jack squat 
You're responsible for the inventory loss, but you're also not allowed to "inconvenience" a thief. Gotta love suits.
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heliox
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If you suspected or caught me doing something to harm your store - yes.
Your analogy is so flawed, it's laughable.
If you saw me buying a screw driver, rope and tape, and thought I was going to go rob someone - absolutely not.
YOU ARE NOT THE POLICE.
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NormanS
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said by willp1 :They do not have the right to police themselves. They provide a service they are not police. I used to run the night shift of a convenience store. We provided a "service". Does that mean I did not have the right to eject a certain person? Acting very suspicious in the vicinity of my liquor display.
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battleop
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"A user HAS EVERY RIGHT to ignore the letters and risk being sued."
Very true. Cox also has every right to do what they are doing. If you don't like their policy then take your business else where. |
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jc100
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A user HAS EVERY RIGHT to ignore the letters and risk being sued. These letters might be generated falsely, considering many tactics the AA's use. Second, even if legit, who is to say a user can't take the risk on their own accord. Should the state take your license after 3 tickets? Most states require a substantial amount of points before a license is revoked. On your basis, if a person has three tickets in their life, the state has cause to kick them from driving. Do you ever hear yourself speak, or just pretend to talk and act like you know a lot? It must be a hard job being chastised constantly and being TK JUNK MAIL. |
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funchords
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said by TKJunkMail :A common sense attitude. The ISP has every right to police their network, even if they are not required to do so by law. Agreed, it certainly has the responsibility to respond to an outside complaint. That's been part of being an ISP since day one.
As far as copyright cop, the DMCA has forced some duties upon ISPs. We have Cox's side of the story (which sounds pretty reasonable), but we've only heard from one person who was on the receiving end of this. He didn't mention whether Cox made numerous tries to resolve the matter. I'd like to hear more information from people like this.
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willp1
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Las Cruces, NM | reply to TKJunkMail
They do not have the right to police themselves. They provide a service they are not police. |
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TKJunkMail
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said by Matt :I think this is a perfectly acceptable solution. If you STILL don't get it after 3 warnings ... you need to be removed from the internet to protect you from yourself because you are an idiot. A common sense attitude. The ISP has every right to police their network, even if they are not required to do so by law.
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