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Re: I like thissaid by hottboiinnc4:it is not a freedom of expression to steal. If you steal you should be punished. COX is doing that by kicking them off their network which they have every right not to do business with anyone just like you have the right not to do business with them. And as always; if you don't like the way these companies do business you are free to call DSLExtreme's parent company and pay them $200 and become a DSL Reseller nationwide and you can compete and not have these polices but i'll give you 3 months if that long and you'd be putting those same policies into affect on your own network; especially if the RIAA or the MPAA come knocking on your door. I do run my own network, and I do not enforce such policies. I pass on DMCA notices as required by law, if I try to do more, then I tread into areas which may violate my status as a common carrier. Should people who violate copyrights be punished? Yes. Is COX an investigative body? No Is COX a police force? No Is COX the entity initiating the DMCA takedown request? No Is COX altering their use policy to apply non legislated punishments and expanding the scope of copyright law? Yes. |
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fiberguy2My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
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Good luck with your business, as long as it lasts. If you don't get eaten up by the xxAA, or the burden of legal fees, I don't know what will.
Not sure what kind of "network" you run, but I can guarantee you that you're not above being responsible for illegal practices taking place on your network and that when pointed out to you and you do nothing.. well.. that's your right to take that risk.
And, unless you are THE top of the food chain on this "network" you run, you still have to answer to the ones up the ladder from you.
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The legal fees are minimal, and were limited to guidance and a policy by which I will comply with local and federal laws. I comply with court orders, and the associated legal reporting requirements.
You seem to think that I'm encouraging any sort of illegal behavior. I am not. What I do is comply with the laws as written, and I act as a transparant middle man.
As for quoting 'network', though it isn't large, it is profitable enough to cover the costs for my post-graduate studies, which, unfortunately, are not inexpensive. |
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if you weren't encouraging illegal behavior you would be doing the same thing as COX. you'd be shutting these people off. Instead you keep giving them service and allow them to do it. |
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said by hottboiinnc4:if you weren't encouraging illegal behavior you would be doing the same thing as COX. you'd be shutting these people off. Instead you keep giving them service and allow them to do it. I sincerely hope that you are being sarcastic with that comment. |
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hwy419
join:2008-10-01
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Permitting infringement on copyright through your network is not illegal. But you should at least treat others as you would have them treat you. Would you like it if others were facilitating infringement on your own copyrighted materials? How would you feel if someone diminished your network profits and livelihood? I believe network admins have an ethical duty to prevent such activity on their networks. Permitting infringement violates the spirit of anti-infringement laws. |
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 helioxNot at the table Carlos.
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join:2000-11-28
Corona, CA |
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So do I.
A private organization alleging something to another private organization about my online behavior, is absurd.
If there is anything illegal going on, the ***a should get a subpoena for my usage records, and file suit with me.
The way I see it, COX doesn't like
1) hassle
2) bandwidth usage
It is so much easier to send a couple letters, and flip a switch. |
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 NormanSI gave her time to steal my mind away
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join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
Asus RT-AC66U B1
Netgear FR114P
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said by heliox:A private organization alleging something to another private organization about my online behavior, is absurd. It is not. It is the basis for spam complaints, and other abuse complaint; and the reason why Abuse Departments exist. If there is anything illegal going on, the ***a should get a subpoena for my usage records, and file suit with me.
Indeed. If there is an allegation of illegal activity, the matter should be brought to the attention of legal authorities. In the case that my ISP cut off my Internet over the allegation of committing an illegal act, I'd have my attorney in touch with their legal department: Assuming that I actually have "clean hands". |
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 funchordsHello
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join:2001-03-11
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said by NormanS:In the case that my ISP cut off my Internet over the allegation of committing an illegal act, I'd have my attorney in touch with their legal department: Assuming that I actually have "clean hands". Assuming your ISP is also clean... |
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