DSLdewd
join:2004-06-05
Denver, CO | Why should we care?
If it's not attached to anyone personally...than who cares. If it's just "anon user 1554623 did this, this, and this" than who cares. Really..why should anyone care?
I could be wrong here but that's how I read it. |
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quatrix
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join:2005-02-11
Davie, FL
| said by DSLdewd  :If it's not attached to anyone personally...than who cares. If it's just "anon user 1554623 did this, this, and this" than who cares. Really..why should anyone care? I could be wrong here but that's how I read it. Yeah, but a lot of people fear what they don't understand. Just look at all the alleged computer experts who use NoScript or software firewalls. Paranoia is rampant. |
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knightmb
Everybody Lies
join:2003-12-01
Franklin, TN
 ·AT&T DSL Service
| said by quatrix :Yeah, but a lot of people fear what they don't understand. Just look at all the alleged computer experts who use NoScript or software firewalls. Paranoia is rampant. I'm certain that the NoScript or Software Firewalls people are probably trying to avoid virus and spyware more than someone getting anonymous click data that they have no control over anyway. 
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DataDoc
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join:2000-05-14
Greenville, NC
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said by DSLdewd :If it's not attached to anyone personally...than who cares. If it's just "anon user 1554623 did this, this, and this" than who cares. Really..why should anyone care? I could be wrong here but that's how I read it. The thing is they have to make it anonymous by removing an way to link back to a user. And it's just annoying to be tracked without permission.
What if every time you left home, your every move was watched, and they tracked every stop you made, what you looked at, etc. But they said "We'll erase your name from the report, so it's anonymous. But we won't stop doing it, even if you ask."
Still ok with it? |
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Wills
join:2001-01-03
Port Charlotte, FL
| said by DataDoc :Still ok with it? Of course they are. As long as people keep acting like sheep, there will always be wolves.
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funchords
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join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC
·Verizon Online DSL
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said by DSLdewd :If it's not attached to anyone personally...than who cares. If it's just "anon user 1554623 did this, this, and this" than who cares. Really..why should anyone care? Because, if it's click-stream data, it's
anon user 1554623 2008-10-02 193307.324 GMT - hXXp://www.dslreports.com/speak/remark,21204812;cc83n8293rn89hhfch9ehnf278hnc9hgu7hgfshurh9283h9vbvr2978yr9b23ycbr92yb923ycbr923yc b8923rybc9y
which ISPs have already been selling. Now, with their spying box inside the network, they possibly can also see what you're seeing on that page in real time! Every word you type.
So "anon user 1554623" doesn't anonymize me, since they can just look at who posted a reply into Topic 21204812 at that time and date and see that it's me.
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DabberDan
join:2004-11-15
Gatineau, ON
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| said by funchords :said by DSLdewd :If it's not attached to anyone personally...than who cares. If it's just "anon user 1554623 did this, this, and this" than who cares. Really..why should anyone care? Because, if it's click-stream data, it's anon user 1554623 2008-10-02 193307.324 GMT - hXXp://www.dslreports.com/speak/remark,21204812;cc83n8293rn89hhfch9ehnf278hnc9hgu7hgfshurh9283h9vbvr2978yr9b23ycbr92yb923ycbr923yc b8923rybc9y So "anon user 1554623" doesn't anonymize me, since they can just look at who posted a reply into Topic 21204812 at that time and date and see that it's me. Man, that couldn't have been crafted any better. Here's a nail and a hammer 
To make matters worse, substitute the URL for any sort of service: torrent, google search queries, usenet, ect... (this includes porn BTW .
Even if it's on SSL, URLs could still give you away.
What was that individual that got discovered from what was supposed to be anonymous data that was collected? I think this was last year maybe? A lady? |
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funchords
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join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC
·Verizon Online DSL
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| said by DabberDan :What was that individual that got discovered from what was supposed to be anonymous data that was collected? I think this was last year maybe? A lady? Thelma Arnold? Or User 927? AOL Scandal ... and that was just search engine data, not click stream or DPI.
This needs to stop.
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clickie
join:2005-05-22
Monroe, MI | reply to DSLdewd
We care because it isn't much of a jump for Experian to NOT make it anonymous.
These people *do* have your social security number, your address, your income, your debts...
Then what? |
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@comcast.net | These people are scumbags. |
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DabberDan
join:2004-11-15
Gatineau, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
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said by funchords :said by DabberDan :What was that individual that got discovered from what was supposed to be anonymous data that was collected? I think this was last year maybe? A lady? Thelma Arnold? Or User 927? AOL Scandal ... and that was just search engine data, not click stream or DPI. This needs to stop. Thanks! |
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Sandy Cosser
@co.za
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Having your movements monitored online is nothing like having them monitored offline. For one, companies like Phorm aren't interested in using your information against you, and their kind of monitoring certainly won't put your life at risk.
And for another, you maintain an element of control over the information that you give out and over the information that is tracked/collected/monitored.
I think the main point of your argument is that you find being tracked annoying. So opt out, and have done with. |
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funchords
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join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC | Again, you can't "opt out" of this other than choosing not to use the broadband ISP -- and at most US and Canada addresses, you have 1-2 broadband ISPs, none of which are respecting your privacy. |
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