pnh102
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Mount Airy, MD | reply to pog
Re: $700 billion could also...
Oh, I know it will be horrible in terms of inflation. I was just making it clear that the government will be printing the money as opposed to borrowing it or redistributing tax revenue.
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pog
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said by pnh102  :The government will do what all governments do when they can no longer borrow money. They will simply print it. At the staggering numbers we're talking about, how far away is hyperinflation? What are good hedges?
For those that don't know...
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation
The main cause of hyperinflation is a massive and rapid increase in the amount of money, which is not supported by growth in the output of goods and services.
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Gogo1
join:2004-05-27
Brooklyn, NY | reply to jc100
Heh. Its no different in my country. |
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Kommie
join:2003-05-13
East Haven, CT
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said by jc100 :Well Palin scares the CRAP out of me. I won't vote for her for all the tea in china. I wish we had OTHER choices between the 2 we got. Being we got 2 choices, I can't give McCain / Palin my vote. I don't much care for Obama and I think Biden is a waste. Being that's basically the rundown, I guess for me it'll be Obama. No 3rd party has won in 120 years. It just doesn't pay to vote for one. Well maybe its about time you started voting third party. With cynysim like yours and the propaganda that a third party vote is a wasted vote its no wonder we have a shitty system. If everyone in America who dislikes the bailout votes for the third party we might have real change.
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pnh102
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Mount Airy, MD | reply to CylonRed
Total BS. The Democrat party has majorities in both houses of Congress. If it wanted to, it could vote for the Wall Street welfare queen plan without a single vote from the GOP.
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said by Skippy25 :Any erosion period is natural. It is the way the world works and has worked for millions of years before we were here. Leave it alone and let it take it's course. WE can work/live around it without it having to cost billions of dollars to support everytime a perfectly natural thing happens. And I will rebut this claim again... The wetlands erosion along the Texas, Louisiana and other coastal regions is a man-made problem. It is anything BUT natural. Like I told the other poster, research wetlands loss and get the facts before you claim it is a natural problem and shouldn't be fixed.
You want to live in an area that has hurricanes or a "bowl" of land that the Mississippi can easily flow into, then feel free. But you do it at your expense and when it is destroyed YOU rebuild it without my tax money. Considering the amount of tax revenue from those areas, which are major ports and huge energy producing areas, which the federal government has made billions in tax money from, the government should funnel some of that tax money back to those areas.
Non-oil producing states, like Missouri, are benefiting from the oil and gas revenues the federal government collects from states like Teaxs, Louisiana and other coastal states. Perhaps the money from those oil and gas revenues should stop flowing to any state that doesn't produce.
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Skippy25
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Hazelwood, MO
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Any erosion period is natural. It is the way the world works and has worked for millions of years before we were here. Leave it alone and let it take it's course. WE can work/live around it without it having to cost billions of dollars to support everytime a perfectly natural thing happens.
You obviously missed the point of my post. People utilizing flood plains is one thing. Grow crops and do what ever to utilize the resource. But people living there and/or government building levies so people and businesses can build there are just plain stupid and they should pay the price everytime they are flooded. Not us tax payers.
You want to live in an area that has hurricanes or a "bowl" of land that the Mississippi can easily flow into, then feel free. But you do it at your expense and when it is destroyed YOU rebuild it without my tax money. |
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CylonRed
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Bloom County
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Yet it is the Republicans who pretty much voted down the last bill and there was not enough Democrats in the Senate to override. If the Democrats were truly in power the bill would have passed. The Republican's have pretty much forced the tax breaks thru that the Democrats have generally been against. The Republican's in the Senate forced the House to include measures they did not want in the bill. Hardly the Democrats pulling their power against the President or over the Republican's.
If the Democrats pulled all of the strings - the tax breaks would not be in and the last bill would have passed.
The Republican party in all of the things I have seen - took the accolades with defeating the last bailout package.
EDIT - opps - I see I had my the House and senate mixed up - thinking the Senate defeated the first and second legislation when it was the House... |
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RayW
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said by CylonRed :I believe the Senate is Republican controlled and they are the ones who wanted the bill redone with tax breaks. Although Dick Chaney is the Senate President, in reality he is only a tie break vote. The President Pro Tempore (the longest serving senator in the majority party) is the one who handles the day to day work of the Senate.
Majority Leader
Harry Reid
Democrat
President Pro Tempore
Robert C. Byrd
Democrat
Assistant Majority Leader
(Democratic Whip)
Richard Durbin
Democrat
Minority Leader
Mitch McConnell
Republican
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CylonRed
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Bloom County | reply to RayW
I believe the Senate is Republican controlled and they are the ones who wanted the bill redone with tax breaks. |
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cdru
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Fort Wayne, IN
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said by Dogfather :But alas, they DON'T have the money. They have to borrow it and pay interest, blowing our already out of control deficit into the stratosphere. AH, what's to worry about. My kids and their eventual kids should be able to pay it off... |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD
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said by jc100 :Troopergate So you think cops who taser 10 year old kids, are drunk on the job and make death threats against people should not be fired? Gov. Palin's only fault here was that she didn't have this cop jailed.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Pub···h_threat
said by jc100 :Belief that Sex Education is Wrong (prob why her daughter pregnant) And you know for a fact that her daughter didn't use any form of birth control? No form of birth control, short of spaying or neutering, is 100% effective. The fact remains that had she abstained, she'd not be pregnant. That proves that abstinence works.
Besides, the state of Alaska clearly shows that some schools do require sex education which discusses birth control other than abstinence.
»74.125.45.104/search?q=cache:mOz···=3&gl=us
said by jc100 :Wanting to fire librarians for REFUSING to ban books while mayor. Except that it didn't happen. The librarian quit. Big difference. Besides, local libraries are funded by local taxpayers, why is it wrong for the elected officials to present the will of the people when it comes to stocking certain books at a local library? And what's this nonsense about "banning" books. How can anyone ban a book? If your library doesn't stock a book, there's nothing stopping you from going to a bookstore to get it or ordering it online, which you can do at a library, using their computers.
»www.fightthepalinsmears.com/smea···brarian/
said by jc100 :Worst of all, while mayor of Wasilla, she enforced a lay that charged women 1000 dollars for rape kits. Wrong again. The town of Wasilla, like many local governments, attempted to bill the insurance companies of rape victims for the cost of these kits.
»campaignspot.nationalreview.com/···ZGEwZDk=
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jc100
join:2002-04-10 | reply to Boogeyman
All hail the FSM. His Noodly Appendages grace us all. |
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NetAdmin
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said by Skippy25 :2.) Its nature, leave it alone. It may be nature, but it is a man-made problem that was created by irresponsibility. Man-made problems should be cleaned up and fixed.
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Just realized that I should be more specific, as I'm talking about wetlands loss/erosion, not natural BEACH erosion.
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As for those "morons" who live on flood plains, those flood plains are the gateway to the regions largest energy reserves. If those "morons" didn't live there, you wouldn't have access to that energy. Nor would you have access to the materials and supplies that flow through the ports and waterways. Flood plains are also where the best soil for growing (used) to exist, so without those "morons", you wouldn't have affordable food.
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John Galt
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Happy Camp | reply to jc100
I wonder how much we could get for Taiwan...??
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Skippy25
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Hazelwood, MO | reply to jc100
You do realize a vast majority of this problem is the result of the Clinton administration, right? |
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Skippy25
join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO | reply to NetAdmin
1.) I would support that.
2.) Its nature, leave it alone.
3.) See #2. Same with morons that live in flood plains.
4.) For veterans and seniors only. The rest get what they or their parents earn for them. |
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jc100
join:2002-04-10
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Interest for them is how long they can stay in office by feeding us enough lies to get elected. All while doing so, they align themselves with special interest groups who them rape this country blind. Got to love our politics. Crooked as shit, and Americans tolerate it. |
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jc100
join:2002-04-10
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Well Palin scares the CRAP out of me. I won't vote for her for all the tea in china. I wish we had OTHER choices between the 2 we got. Being we got 2 choices, I can't give McCain / Palin my vote. I don't much care for Obama and I think Biden is a waste. Being that's basically the rundown, I guess for me it'll be Obama. No 3rd party has won in 120 years. It just doesn't pay to vote for one. Then again, as long as Americans are LAZY and consider the first tues in november (30 percent anyway) their civic duty, it doesn't matter who wins. We are such a lazy bunch of people, that once these idiots get elected, we don't hold them accountable for nothing. Then when things get bad, we whine and go about the same routing every 1-4 years. You'd think we'd learn. We don't.
As for Palin:
Troopergate
Belief that Sex Education is Wrong (prob why her daughter pregnant)
Wanting to fire librarians for REFUSING to ban books while mayor.
Worst of all, while mayor of Wasilla, she enforced a lay that charged women 1000 dollars for rape kits.
She's unconscionable. I hate the other 3 on the list, but she disgusts me. |
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NetAdmin
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said by Boogeyman :I just moved from Panama City, FL, and let me tell you, it takes less than 6 months for the underbrush and weeds to grow back high enough that you would know it was ever g one. But yeah, they probably did do that a lot in the 80's, but that was 20 years ago. A lot of stuff has been growing since then. Wetlands and coastal swamps are different ecosystems from a beach, so what works on a beach doesn't work in wetlands or coastal swamps.
And no, it has not gotten better. Saltwater intrusion is a process that accelerates. And in 20 years, the problem has gotten worse in the wetlands, putting more and more homes and industry at risk.
"Coastal Erosion" is caused by waves removing sand from beaches. PC spent over $3m to have sand dredged out of the Gulf and put back on the beach right before Ivan hit.
Coastal refers to much more than waves removing just sand from a beach and is not always repaired with the simple task of pumping sand in.
Like I said, research the topic.
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