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Re: Who are all these geeks crying for mo speed?
said by ninjatutle  :You cant do video conferencing now with your current bb connection? Or do you think you will magically earn more income with a faster connection to provide these setups for your family. I think that I can. I was doing it in 1995 both over dial-up and on direct modem-to-modem telephone connections. My friends were doing wireless SSTV at a rockin' 0.125 fps in 1981 (although I never got into that). Resolutions of 176 x 144 pixels and 352 x 288 pixel video were huge progress (think H323 and H324 protocols).
However, that's no comparison to three panels running 1366 x 768, one on each wall, bringing together distant grandparents, children, soldiers ... that would simply rock!
I'm so glad that you know what's best for everyone. Moore's Law is over. All the college kids can quit studying. Since everything that needs to be invented already has been, I'll just go home early for the weekend. Oh, wait -- I am home. I am WORKING from home. Gee, what enables me to do that?
Nice troll, though.
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JasonX
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said by maartena :I have long been considering an online backup service for my home, so we can upload all of our important stuff there, suchs as Mozy, which is only $4.95 a month for unlimited storage. ... Having to use that with 1 Mbps upload is.... unappealing, and time consuming. Actually, Mozy limits your upload speed to 1 Mbps max anyway, so higher speeds won't help you there (I'm a long time customer of theirs). That's one of the ways Mozy discourages abuse of the "unlimited" storage. The rest of your points are well taken, though. |
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ninjatutle
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This is what I see from fox.com on my mobile 3G card. No postage stamp here  |
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ninjatutle
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San Ramon, CA | reply to maartena
You want to run a little satellite office out of your garage? Pony up for the correct infrastructure. |
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said by dadkins :Let me ask you something friend, what do you need with Uverse? Scrap it and just get dialup. All anyone wants high speed for is stealing, right? Nice anti-troll there, Dadkins. I'll bet you left him speechless.
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maartena
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said by ninjatutle :Fox.com has streaming shows in HD. To the obama guy: You want business class service? Pay for it. Business Class service with TWC is 15/2 and $99. Not bad, but still not very fast.
And if you think that a small-time freelance photographer or video-editor running his own little studio in a converted garage of his home can afford a $4,000 a month partial DS3 to do his online backups, you really need a reality check.
And again, there are SO MANY things that people can do outside of business that require bandwidth, especially with families.
And you obviously also have no grasp about offices allowing "teleworking" from home, and wanting to connect everybody in. It is "workable" through RDP systems now, but a straight VPN with some speed behind it is much better.
Keep up that mindset that everyone that wants faster speeds.... MUST be doing SOMETHING illegal. |
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maartena
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said by ninjatutle :Off sight backup? Why don't you do daily incremental backups? Or are you also backing up your bootlegs You may not have a DSLR camera, but I have one that produces 2 Gb of data for about 300 pics. Now I don't shoot that much every week as it is just a hobby, but if you are a freelance wedding photographer that does a few weddings and some other events each week because it is your living.... and you want to backup the projects clients haven't PAID for yet to an online service, it can be very handy to have a online backup service.
And I am not even shooting in RAW mode, which is what most professionals do.... and that is easily 1 Gb for 40 photos. The last wedding I was at the guy had to take out his 8 Gb CompactFlash and put in a new one because it was full.
Even completely zipped up and compressed, a freelance photographer can easily generate up to 10, 15 Gb a WEEK that he may want to back up online - until the clients pay him for the work after which he can place them on fixed media like DVD's. |
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maartena
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said by ninjatutle :I don't know what type of setup you have, but I can do full duplexing on mine on a much bigger window Yeah but try to do that, AND have your wife doing a full backup of her system to an online backup service, AND having your son upload his homework projects to the school FTP server, AND having your daughter download a new Netflix movie WHILE on the VOIP phone to chat, AND one computer that so happens to download 300 megs of new updates.... all at the same time.
See if your videoconference from your home office still works right.  |
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ninjatutle
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San Ramon, CA | reply to XBL2009
Fox.com has streaming shows in HD.
To the obama guy:
You want business class service? Pay for it. |
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said by ninjatutle :Seriously, what would you want 100MB up and down for? What will you be able to do that you can't do now? P2P seems like the only thing that comes to mind... My little mobile 3G card can even handle my needs. Minus the caps... 1. Faster Upload
2. Stream better video across the internet instead of postage stamp size.
3. Video Phone
4. Download large Game demos
There is four of the top of my head. |
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maartena
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said by ninjatutle :Seriously, what would you want 100MB up and down for? What will you be able to do that you can't do now? DOWNLOAD:
- Use Netflix to download DVD movies. It has gotten quite a popular service, especially the unlimited one that allows you to download unlimited for a monthly fee.
- Download backed up data from an online backup service to another PC.
- I have a MSDN account and test new Linux distros a lot. On average, I download 3 or 4 ISO's from Microsoft and 3 or 4 ISO's using Torrents for Linux distros.
- If you have a family of 4, and 4 computers in the house, you will be able to use the internet all at the same time, and everyone will actually enjoy high speed instead of one person clogging up the line backing up his PC to an online backup service.
- Videoconferencing with some quality, instead of stamp-format 320x200 video screens you can do through your current upload. And this goes hand in hand with family members clogging up the line, as that will screw it up.
- Work from home as if you are in the office, using VPN that is actually allowing you to access files on a work server directly as opposed to having to use RDP due to bandwidth restrictions. Additionally, you can download that presentation video from the work server in seconds instead of half an hour right before you walk out the door to a client.
- Other work benefits include: -- Printing directly to a color printer at work, after you are done with your big, colorful presentation that sends 128 Mb spool files to the printer. -- Directly accessing a database using a SQL front-end without having to use a public web interface, which is not always available with proprietary software.
- Keeping an eye on your business from home, having access to all 16 security cameras at once around the building, so you can immediatly see what is going on when you get the call that your alarm went off.
UPLOAD:
- Host more gameservers. (I host OpenTTD servers at home).
- Easily access your files, MP3's, etc, at a decent speed when you are on the road, in hotels, etc. For instance, pick up a few Netflix movies that you already downloaded at home but forgot to take with you.
- Use SlingBox with a decent videocompression rate, so I can watch my home-games when traveling for work.
- Use an online-backup service for my 30 Gb+ digital pictures that I really would hate to lose in a fire, without uploading it all taking 2 days.
- Actually be able to send large video files of your cousin's wedding over the internet using MSN or another easy to use messenger that your familymembers use.
Need I go on?
Most importantly: Allowing you, your partner, and your kids/other family members to do all of it at once, without one clogging things up for the other.
Why some people keep insisting that all you can do with faster bandwidth, is more illegal stuff, is beyond me. They have absolutely no grasp of what the internet can do for you, for your business, and that there are actually lots of completely legal business and home applications that will become a lot more easy to do with a lot of bandwidth.
For instance, I have long been considering an online backup service for my home, so we can upload all of our important stuff there, suchs as Mozy, which is only $4.95 a month for unlimited storage. I have more then 30 Gb of pictures, and ever since I got a nice DSLR camera, I sometimes come home with ANOTHER 2 Gb card filled with stuff, and it is growing rapidly.
Having to use that with 1 Mbps upload is.... unappealing, and time consuming. If I had say 10 Mbps upload, let alone 100 Mbps, it would be much easier to manage a backup system that backs up my wife's laptop, and my two computers of out most important stuff - totalling a good 60 gb or so - to an online service.
Why people have NO CLUE about what you can do with bandwidth without having to break the law.... is beyond me. |
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stomp357
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All I hear from you is how anyone wanting more speed is stealing. You yourself are using a broadband service. Since all you must do on the internet is email, & websurf (everything else is criminal, or network abuse according to you), just get dialup, or the slowest tiered broadband. Then you would have enough bandwidth, and not be bothered by the bandwidth robbing users.  |
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ninjatutle
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San Ramon, CA | reply to Boogeyman
I don't know what type of setup you have, but I can do full duplexing on mine on a much bigger window |
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Boogeyman
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5 frames a sec of 340x200 does not a video conference make.
I think he's talking about multi stream higher resolutions, not some little box in the corner that looks like a cell phone cam if you full screen it.
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Don't try and reason with him. He's just walking the company line for ISPs to try and convince users progress and innovation are bad so that you don't bother demanding things like "value" in your products.
EDIT: I apologize for my run-on sentence.
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Boogeyman
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5-7 years ago, 3/256 was the average high end and people were whining that we needed more.
We whined and got got enough attention to get what we wanted. If we didnt bitch about it back then, we wouldnt be seeing the 6/768-8/1 average high end we have now.
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
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said by ninjatutle :Seriously, what would you want 100MB up and down for? ... who cares? the majority of the US market isn't going to see speeds like that for years.
as much as we discuss "the need for speed" on these forums, it's an academic exercise - we just aren't going to see widespread, AFFORDABLE 100Mbps speeds for probably 5 years or longer.
the US broadband market sucks almost as much as our economy. |
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ninjatutle
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You cant do video conferencing now with your current bb connection? Or do you think you will magically earn more income with a faster connection to provide these setups for your family.
I can watch a security feed from my family's business, a feed from my house and send/receive emails without skipping a beat on my 3G card. Granted, thats pushing the limits of my 3G but easily done at home.
Didkins..
Off sight backup? Why don't you do daily incremental backups? Or are you also backing up your bootlegs |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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Hercules, CA
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*cough* off-site backups *cough*
Uploading 13-25GB system images is a royal pain with sub mb speeds.
Even with my 2.2mbps upstream, it takes a while.
Let me ask you something friend, what do you need with Uverse?
Scrap it and just get dialup.
All anyone wants high speed for is stealing, right?
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cahiatt
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Smyrna, GA
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said by ninjatutle :Seriously, what would you want 100MB up and down for? What will you be able to do that you can't do now? Would make my life easier sending those 40meg CAD drawing files over the VPN. That 768k up now is fairly painful. |
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