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chmod
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Lockport, IL

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Help troubleshoot snowblower carb problems.

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I bought a used Dynamark model 5360-6200 snowblower last year, unsure of age. Toward the end of last winter I came out to the garage for something and it smelled like I tipped a gas can over or something. After some investigating I found the source of the leaking gas was coming from the carb of the snowblower. I took the bowl off along with the float and jet quickly examined them, didn't find anything, and put it back together. No more leaks until a few weeks ago same thing. I took it apart this time and inspected the float to make sure it wasn't taking on gas and it is infact air tight. I don't really know what problems to look for on the jet it appeared ok to me. I them reassembled it all again this time it lasted about 3days before emptying the remainder of the gas in the tank onto the garage floor. Attached is a picture of where its leaking the butterfly valve I think its called it spews from there. Any ideas?

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I believe the motor is a 5hp tecumseh.
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PoloDude
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One thing i would do is install an in-line shut off valve. That will stop the leaking if you can't fix the carb. Does it still run ok?



GadgetsRme
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Canon City, CO

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I'm not sure about that particular model, but most snow blowers are gravity feed on the fuel. There should be a fuel shut off at the bottom of the fuel tank that should be turned off every time you shut the blower off. The fuel, if it is coming out of the butterfly of the carb, which is the choke, is flowing internally from gravity pressure.
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chmod
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Lockport, IL

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said by PoloDude:

One thing i would do is install an in-line shut off valve. That will stop the leaking if you can't fix the carb. Does it still run ok?
That was going to be my plan of attack if I couldn't get it to quit. The last time I put it back together a few days ago I played with the jets until it ran smooth. So yea it does run really good. Last winter it would only stay running if I left it fully choked hence running really rich and not making much power. I knew when I was about to run out of gas because it kicked into over-drive because it leaned out and really threw the snow. Now I've got it to where it will run really well with the choke all the way off.
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chmod
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Lockport, IL

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said by GadgetsRme:

I'm not sure about that particular model, but most snow blowers are gravity feed on the fuel. There should be a fuel shut off at the bottom of the fuel tank that should be turned off every time you shut the blower off. The fuel, if it is coming out of the butterfly of the carb, which is the choke, is flowing internally from gravity pressure.
You would think so, not on this one.
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TheMG
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I had a gas trimmer (weed eater) with that problem. It would spill a bunch of gas on the ground overnight and flood the engine. Ran fine once it got started, but if you stopped it and let it sit for about an hour the engine would be flooded with gas again.

Not sure exactly what was wrong with it though, it was under warranty so I didn't mess with it.



PoloDude
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I think a shut off valve is your easy course of action. I have one on my snowblower and generator.



chmod
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Lockport, IL

said by PoloDude:

I think a shut off valve is your easy course of action. I have one on my snowblower and generator.
Yea, I think thats the route I'll go. Shut the gas off let the remaining fuel burn out park it. Was just trying to find an explanation for it randomly doing this.
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TA63
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There is a problem with either the float, its needle or seat.

I agree that a shutoff is a great idea, but the current problem still needs to be fixed.
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Tursiops_G
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Norwalk, CT

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said by chmod:

Yea, I think thats the route I'll go. Shut the gas off let the remaining fuel burn out park it. Was just trying to find an explanation for it randomly doing this.
Explanation: Dirty/Worn Needle Valve/Seat, or Sticking Float in the Fuel Bowl...

Go with the Shutoff Valve (Simple, Cheap), or else have the Carb rebuilt (Higher Cost)...

(Edit: TA63 See Profile beat me to it).
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chmod
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said by TA63:

There is a problem with either the float, its needle or seat.

I agree that a shutoff is a great idea, but the current problem still needs to be fixed.
The float appears fine, it has no leaks, nor varnish. What do I look for on the needle? Theres a spring I guess you would call it and I assume is the seat on the bottom side.
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Stevert

join:2001-10-23
Algonquin, IL

said by chmod:

The float appears fine, it has no leaks, nor varnish. What do I look for on the needle? Theres a spring I guess you would call it and I assume is the seat on the bottom side.
The float could be fine, but if the needle isn't sealing it won't shut off the flow of gas into the carb.

And no, the seat is actually above the pointed top of the needle. When the bowl fills with fuel and causes the float to push the needle up, that's where it seats. Look for damage/contaminants there and on the needle point itself.

Here's a link to a picture of a carb assembly that shows the seat - It's a downdraft carb, and yours is a side draft, but the float/needle/seat work the same in both:

»racingarticles.com/images/carb_basics.gif


TA63
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There is sometimes a specification for the weight of the float.

Aside from that, make sure that nothing is sticking and that the sealing surfaces of the needle and seat are good.

Clearly something isn't good!

Sometimes you can buy rebuild kits, these may include a float/needle/seat.

If it is dirty, then make sure to address the source of the dirt as well, or the problem will recur.
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Tursiops_G
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Just adding to TA63 See Profile's post, Is there any Rust in the Fuel tank? If So, then you should either replace the tank, or else add an In-line Fuel Filter to prevent the rust from re-contaminating the carb...

-Tursiops_G.
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chmod
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Lockport, IL

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What numbers do I reference to buy a rebuild kit? I'm pretty sure I can get a rebuild. I thought I googled some numbers on it to confirm it was a tecumseh last winter. Nothing I input now reflects that.
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chmod
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Lockport, IL

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said by Tursiops_G:

Just adding to TA63 See Profile's post, Is there any Rust in the Fuel tank? If So, then you should either replace the tank, or else add an In-line Fuel Filter to prevent the rust from re-contaminating the carb...

-Tursiops_G.
The tank is very clean.
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TA63
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For parts, I would go via the manufacturer of the snowblower, or a decent sized small engine repair shop.
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gawron

join:2005-12-09
Pontiac, MI

reply to chmod
Rebuild kits are cheap and fairly easy to install. Sounds like a sticking float valve and a rebuild kit will cure that problem. Rebuild it, you'll be happy you did!



DaHen
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Brockton, MA

reply to chmod
I vote for a rebuilt kit as well. The new gaskets and needle would help.
Plus a fuel filter and valve.



HRM
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Darien, CT
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Fast and priced well.

»www.jackssmallengines.com/index.html

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