Topic 'Re: Lame' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21218029 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:07:21 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:07:21 EDT Re: Lame http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21226978
There are plenty of documented facts on what a successful ad is to which you are more than welcome to spend your own time looking up to disprove me, and the entire industry.

Why don't you start with the very ad we're talking about. Second, look into the history of tacky ads.. I don't know about when you grew up, but I'm not going to do your home work.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21226978 Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:07:53 EDT Re: Lame http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21221733 said by fiberguy:

..you mean the same as DVD makers remove your ability to MENU through the beginning crap of some DVDs including the ads for their other movies?? I'd agree with you.
And I know more than a few people that are so turned off by that "feature" that they will not buy the product or movie advertised or they simply ignore it. Can't tell you how many times my friend and I simply ignore the forced ads by hitting the frig and grabbing drinks and snacks. Like the previews in a theater, people put away their coats and bags, get their popcorn and drinks ready for the main feature. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21221733 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 07:44:50 EDT Re: Lame http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21221494 said by fiberguy:

.. you mean the same as DVD makers remove your ability to MENU through the beginning crap of some DVDs including the ads for their other movies?? I'd agree with you.Yup. That would be a current example of a similar technology.
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So I'd like to see some actual stats for that ad you cite, because I doubt your claim.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21221021 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 23:39:59 EDT Re: Lame http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21220792 said by fiberguy:

said by KrK:

said by pnh102:

But as was also pointed out earlier, most people with DVRs tend to skip ads anyway so this makes this technology worthless.
If the Cable company provides the DVR (Integrated STB, for example) they can also control how you use it. 'Course this would really piss a lot of people off....

Then again... it's cable TV.
.. you mean the same as DVD makers remove your ability to MENU through the beginning crap of some DVDs including the ads for their other movies?? I'd agree with you.
DVDfab platinum takes care of those pesky dvds. disney are the worst.
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Did the Direct Tv and Dish Network birds fall out of the sky? Did the Telcos stop offering service? How did I miss that story on the front page?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21220122 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:07:06 EDT Re: Lame http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21220112 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21220112 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:04:57 EDT Re: Lame http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21219246 said by jgegner:

It's bad enough that website owners put obnoxious ads on their sites (I use Firefox with Adblock Plus & NoScript to filter them out), now cable operators like Comcast want to shove even MORE ads in our faces, targeted to our interests?

This almost makes me want to dump cable and get DirecTV.

James
I do the same thing, AdBlock Plus & NoScript keeps the ads away :D

I already switched from Comcast to DirecTV because DTV has more HD channels, and I save $20/month vs going w/ Comcast for less HD channels at more of a cost. I did however get Comcast's Business 16/2, as its the best I can get from Comcast or Qwest.

[hijack]
BTW, for those who didn't know, Comcast's Business account comes with access to an exchange server for your e-mail. Just thought some would like to know as I've told a few people and sold them JUST for that feature :p
[/hijack]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21219246 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:28:13 EDT Re: Lame http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21219130 said by fiberguy:



Some of the more vocal people here do not make up what is the group of idiot consumers that eat that kinda stuff up.
Your probably right... So Sad. :uhh:
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I'd like to see advanced services and HD expansion before addressable advertising. I've been following some of the Project Canoe in CED Magazine, and it's not just Comcast. It's a consortium of companies like Time Warner, Charter, and Cox as well. There will be a standard of implementation (thankfully) which in the long run this will be a great asset to the MSO and advertiser.

Again, not necessarily a bad thing, but I was hoping for the attention to focus on bandwidth expansion for HD Video and DOCSIS 3.0. That's not something you generally see unless you live in a Fios or U-Verse zone.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21218960 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 15:09:16 EDT Re: Lame http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21218939 said by Mactron:

Most Ads make not want to buy the product. "Headon" ?..
Gee how many folks wanted to buy that product after being annoyed for months with that Ad ?

Not me for sure. ;)
Ahhh, contrare Mactron. The most successful ads ARE the ones that annoy you. I would speak of local ads but most people here wouldn't get it.. so lets take the Head-On product. Not only was it simple, stupid, and the worst production ever made, it got EVERYONE talking about it.. it got free press, it got into the news cycles and they sold millions of that "we can't tell you if it really works or not" product.

Point in case - the ad one one of THE most successes in American television, the firm that made it got rich, and people bought the crap by the train-loads.

Some of the more vocal people here do not make up what is the group of idiot consumers that eat that kinda stuff up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21218939 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 15:02:40 EDT Re: Lame http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21218933 said by KrK:

said by pnh102:

But as was also pointed out earlier, most people with DVRs tend to skip ads anyway so this makes this technology worthless.
If the Cable company provides the DVR (Integrated STB, for example) they can also control how you use it. 'Course this would really piss a lot of people off....

Then again... it's cable TV.
.. you mean the same as DVD makers remove your ability to MENU through the beginning crap of some DVDs including the ads for their other movies?? I'd agree with you.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21218933 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 14:59:54 EDT Re: Lame http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21218927 said by cypherstream:

Agreed.

Our money is better spent expanding the systems to 1 GHz and invested into HD Channels than this. Project Canoe cannot be a 'cheap' undertaking. Comcast, priorities anyone???
Let me be the first to disagree. When a provider or ad vehicle can target a more specific customer, the ad buy becomes MUCH more valuable which means more revenue TO get to the things you want. Further, before comcast spotlight even, you'd get an ad inserted into your viewing for a small diner 30 miles away and in today's world, everyone here would be more apt to sqwak about that as "idiotic" in today's world.

This is the first I've ever heard of this boat (canoe) but, I can say, to me, its a logical choice to migrate towards.

The company is capable of doing more than one thing at a time; it doesn't have everyone in the company doing one single thing. The HD upgrade, system frequency expansion, etc. are all still being done.

Canoe actually wouldn't be that expensive anyway. I'd bet you that they perform a small upgrade in the head end equipment, and ads that are served are put into a "head end" code of their own. Each box would most likely be told to view a different "head end" where the commercials were being fed to - or something similar to that. Just a guess at this point.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21218927 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 14:58:51 EDT Re: Lame http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21218672 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21218672 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 13:52:06 EDT Re: Lame http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21218525 said by cypherstream:

Agreed.

Our money is better spent expanding the systems to 1 GHz and invested into HD Channels than this. Project Canoe cannot be a 'cheap' undertaking. Comcast, priorities anyone???
The broadband market is saturated and Comcast has no competition. Upgrading infrastructure is not as profitable as investment in advertising in such an environment.

edit:grammar]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21218525 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 13:00:08 EDT Re: Lame http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21218509 said by pnh102:

But as was also pointed out earlier, most people with DVRs tend to skip ads anyway so this makes this technology worthless.If the Cable company provides the DVR (Integrated STB, for example) they can also control how you use it. 'Course this would really piss a lot of people off....

Then again... it's cable TV.
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Our money is better spent expanding the systems to 1 GHz and invested into HD Channels than this. Project Canoe cannot be a 'cheap' undertaking. Comcast, priorities anyone???]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21218456 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 12:28:23 EDT Re: Lame http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21218445 --
"At the moment of conception."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21218445 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 12:23:58 EDT Re: Lame http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21218348
This almost makes me want to dump cable and get DirecTV.

James
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-- George Santayana (1863-1952)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21218348 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 11:59:07 EDT Re: Lame http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-21218239 Gee how many folks wanted to buy that product after being annoyed for months with that Ad ?

Not me for sure. ;)
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It seems like this would be beyond trivial with IPTV. Just insert the ads into the streams going through certain routers. I guess they could do the same thing with nodes but it'd be kind of rough. But as was also pointed out earlier, most people with DVRs tend to skip ads anyway so this makes this technology worthless.

Instead of wasting money on something very few people will find useful, Comcast should look ahead instead and offer more HD programming.
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