slow joe
join:2008-01-17 | new internet tax ?
A new tax for internet coming to fund culture ?
»www.thestar.com/sciencetech/article/512201 |
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R0CKY
TSI Rocky
Premium,VIP
join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON
| Ouch.... If that 2.5% is on the gross value of our sales.... that would be a huge chunk of our profits (pretty much removing them)!
Instead of actually conforming and going online to make a bid for good content for themselves they are choosing to have the ISPs essentially create a welfare system for them, where regardless if what they've done sucks or not gets funded by us.
This is really not a good thing for Joe Internet user.... We're simply an on-ramp, we don't look at the users usage, we don't deal in content, media, etc... Thinking, as with all media companies that this 69% wasn't questioned properly or it was misdirected questioning to get the numbers they needed to back their goals.
There must be a better way to deal with this as this really isn't it!
Rocky
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mlerner
Premium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON | reply to slow joe
Just idiotic, the internet isn't Canadian and you can't put a tax on it no matter how much Canadian content is floating on the web. |
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Bellundo
@teksavvy.com | reply to slow joe
Maybe someone should tell those people to get a job. |
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shepd
join:2004-01-17
Kitchener, ON
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Every time I see another cultural tax or requirement, I purposely avoid said culture. Yes, this has meant ~25% less TV watching, and just giving up on the radio. C'est la vie!
I do feel bad for Canadian artists trapped in the middle of all this, but clearly they have the power to change it, not me. |
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Tenar
join:2008-01-02
Midland, ON
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Nobody is viewing Canadian content online therefore we will make taxes pay for it. 
Yay.. now tax payers get to pay twice (pay the tax and pay to view the content) for something we didn't want in the first place. |
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HiVolt
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join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
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Are you f'n kidding me...
said by article :
In support, the groups released the results of a public opinion survey they said found that "69 per cent of Canadians believe that ISPs should be required to help fund the production of Canadian digital media content in the same way that cable and satellite TV providers are required to contribute a small percentage of their revenues to the production of Canadian television programs."
The ISP's are not gonna fund this, the users will, as this 2.5% will just be passed onto customers...
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GearHead360
join:2002-12-14
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October 6th, @09:57AM
| Em I realize all your concerns. I'm not for the tax either. But if it was enforced then the users could pay the tax, with the $29.99 accounts. 2.5% tax would only be 75 cents. A total of $9 per year.
If the corps are going to be forced to pay it. Then I'd advise smaller isps to raising the price by the 75 cents per month. Big isps don't need to raise anything, they have a high enough profit margin.
What are the trade offs, Teksavvy operating at break-even or negative profits and not getting any better or the customers paying 75 cents, allowing Teksavvy to raise new capital, increase services, provide you with more value.
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Assuming there was no major copyright reform, if this tax would be considered as a levy and it would count toward the the FAIR USE portion of copyright law, then I'd be down with that even more.
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But then again I don't like most Canadian produced TV content. snoooozzzzeefest. |
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shepd
join:2004-01-17
Kitchener, ON
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If this tax comes into existence, I would strong support all ISPs adding it as a separate line item on our bills:
"Your government at work -- Canadian internet content required charity donation -- $1.00"
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pnjunction
Teksavvy Premium
join:2008-01-24
Toronto, ON
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Lame. Why can't Canadian content creators fend for themselves and make money by, you know, selling their product like everybody else does?
Oh right, most of it is terrible and only gets made because the government foots the bill. They hold us all hostage to make their lame crap that would make enough money to sustain itself if anybody actually liked it.
I'd love to hear their plan to make the Internet we access 25% Canadian content. Cut us off from international content, make a bunch of crappy Canadian content that nobody looks at (like on TV), or both? |
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GearHead360
join:2002-12-14
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October 6th, @10:20AM
| Seriously some of these big dream Canadian producers need to just let the delusion die. Canada is not a quality media producing country, other than all the movies and tv shows that Americans come here to film. |
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Arbalister
join:2007-11-24
St Catharines, ON
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October 6th, @10:44AM
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said by shepd  :If this tax comes into existence, I would strong support all ISPs adding it as a separate line item on our bills: "Your government at work -- Canadian internet content required charity donation -- $1.00" That's *exactly* my plan. Though I think I'd word it more like:
"Unfair, Unwarranted CRTC 'cultural' Canadian Content Levy" with the phone number for the CRTC under it.
I fought them in 1999, when they wanted to regulate "Canadian Content" on the internet. Right...what would they like us do to, block you from using any non-canadian site until you've achieved 60% Canadian... |
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matradley
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join:2003-07-03
Ontario
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October 6th, @11:16AM
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said by HiVolt :Are you f'n kidding me... said by article :
In support, the groups released the results of a public opinion survey they said found that "69 per cent of Canadians believe that ISPs should be required to help fund the production of Canadian digital media content in the same way that cable and satellite TV providers are required to contribute a small percentage of their revenues to the production of Canadian television programs."
Yeah, that 69% is probably either made up or is the amount of artists they asked within a 100 people to sway the polls. I doubt they really told them about a tax that would remove more monies from their pockets. The ISP's are not gonna fund this, the users will, as this 2.5% will just be passed onto customers... They probably failed to tell the 69 out of 100 people that they will implement a new tax to relieve them of the money in their pockets. The answers to everything seems to be tax more.  |
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DjEclipse
join:2007-11-20
Niagara Falls, ON | reply to slow joe
Re: new internet tax ?
Bunch of bull shit. |
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Kareeser
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join:2006-07-18
Mississauga, ON
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said by shepd :If this tax comes into existence, I would strong support all ISPs adding it as a separate line item on our bills: "Your government at work -- Canadian internet content required charity donation -- $1.00" +1  |
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anon2
@rr.com
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Everytime I see the words "Canadian" and "culture" applied to nearly any conversation I become extremely angry.
I am Canadian, and was born Canadian. And I have absolutely no interested in being forcibly made to support "Canadian Culture" unless it has something to do with defending against being made to accept the ugly influences of foreign cultures such as the wonders of say Sharia law.
The arts can fend for themselves just fine. |
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GearHead360
join:2002-12-14 | reply to slow joe
Well it seems the concervatives are still out to get Canadian consumers after the election. If so, this tax has NO RIGHT to exist. |
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nicomaniaque
join:2008-02-29 | reply to DjEclipse
said by DjEclipse :Bunch of bull shit. +1
Just Stupid.... |
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