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mr weather
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join:2002-02-27
Mississauga, ON

reply to Mark Z

Re: FTA in Canada

FTA is very much for real. However, the death sentence will come when Nagra 3 is fully implemented.

The kicker is (as Hydraglass pointed out) you can't rely on it as your primary programming source. ECM's are unpredictable and the last thing you want is for the bin to go down in the middle of something.

If you're looking for true FTA, G10R at 123w is by far the best.
--
"It's all coming down!!" - Mike Holmes


BigSensFan
Premium
join:2003-07-16
Whitby, ON

What type of programming do they have on G10r?

And as to the 'legality' of FTA I dont think it is legal even if you are pointing at the US Dishes.

As for Nagra 3, they said the same ting about Nagra 2



nitzguy
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join:2002-07-11
Sudbury, ON
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said by BigSensFan:

What type of programming do they have on G10r?

And as to the 'legality' of FTA I dont think it is legal even if you are pointing at the US Dishes.

As for Nagra 3, they said the same ting about Nagra 2
I was about to say the same thing...I remember working for a cable company back when Nagra 2 came out and...well...its still alive .

As they say...its like a spiraling staircase, they'll implement new protections, people will move to "circumvent" those protections for their TV viewing experience.

...meh, I'm sure for those people who end up paying $0/Mth for their TV viewing experience can handle some downtime from time to time.

I know I would


andyb
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join:2003-05-29
SW Ontario
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reply to BigSensFan

said by BigSensFan:

What type of programming do they have on G10r?
10r was replaced by G18 recently
»www.lyngsat.com/galaxy18.html
Look at the ku band list

Another good sat is G25 at 97w (soon to be replaced by G19)
if you like internationals.
»www.lyngsat.com/galaxy25.html

mr weather
Premium
join:2002-02-27
Mississauga, ON

reply to BigSensFan

said by BigSensFan:

What type of programming do they have on G10r?
andyb beat me to it but Galaxy 18 (nee G10R) carries a number of Retro Television Network channels, ABC from Wyoming and FOX from four different cities. In addition there are number of Spanish channels and a couple of learning ones.

As for Nagra 3, they said the same ting about Nagra 2
Well, the thing is someone at Kudelski leaked key components of Nagra 2 and the Korean coders worked their magic. That's the ONLY reason anyone can watch Dish Network or Bell TV at the moment using a $100 receiver with an RS232 port for firmware "upgrades".

I don't think the same mistake will be made again.
--
"It's all coming down!!" - Mike Holmes


JayMan26
Whoot
Premium
join:2002-06-05
Earth

reply to mr weather

said by mr weather:

FTA is very much for real. However, the death sentence will come when Nagra 3 is fully implemented.

The kicker is (as Hydraglass pointed out) you can't rely on it as your primary programming source. ECM's are unpredictable and the last thing you want is for the bin to go down in the middle of something.

If you're looking for true FTA, G10R at 123w is by far the best.
the chatter is Nagra 3 is already cracked in Europe where it's already active.

mr weather
Premium
join:2002-02-27
Mississauga, ON

Interesting...



nitzguy
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join:2002-07-11
Sudbury, ON
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·TekSavvy DSL

reply to mr weather

said by mr weather:

said by BigSensFan:

What type of programming do they have on G10r?
andyb beat me to it but Galaxy 18 (nee G10R) carries a number of Retro Television Network channels, ABC from Wyoming and FOX from four different cities. In addition there are number of Spanish channels and a couple of learning ones.

As for Nagra 3, they said the same ting about Nagra 2
Well, the thing is someone at Kudelski leaked key components of Nagra 2 and the Korean coders worked their magic. That's the ONLY reason anyone can watch Dish Network or Bell TV at the moment using a $100 receiver with an RS232 port for firmware "upgrades".

I don't think the same mistake will be made again.
Wait a minute...wasn't Nagra 2 supposed to fix the "hacks" from Nagra 1? ...I thought that the same mistake wasn't supposed to happen twice?


Snickerdo
Premium
join:2001-02-28
Niagara Falls, ON

reply to JayMan26

said by JayMan26:

the chatter is Nagra 3 is already cracked in Europe where it's already active.
Indeed, word on the street is that it has been for a while.

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