davemanfl
join:2008-01-04
North Port, FL | Florida Realignment Thread - 10/7
Can't wait for it to unfold. |
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Blast 420
Close the world, Open the nExt
join:2007-10-04
Tampa, FL | So far nothing has happened, maybe the rumors that it was pushed back to 10/20 where true  |
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Dnepr
join:2001-11-28
Tarpon Springs, FL | FL is live with Re-Alignment.
Though a whole bunch of channels are "Coming soon" and one thing is annoying to me is that HD channels start not at 500 but at 503... meh. |
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Pezisgod
join:2008-06-12
Tampa, FL
| reply to davemanfl
Coming Soon:
FX HD
WGN HD
ESPNews HD
Speed HD
Fox Business HD
Fox News HD
Bio HD
QVC HD
Planet Green HD
Travel HD
ABC Family HD
Hallmark Movie Channel HD
MGM HD
Disney HD
Toon Disney HD
RFDTV
CurrentTV |
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a1rodger
join:2008-05-02
Keller, TX | reply to davemanfl
Looks like you got the same line up as Texas yesterday. |
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Grease
join:2002-01-08
Valrico, FL | reply to davemanfl
No realignment yet here in Valrico, Fl. |
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JeepMatt
Delaware Fios
Premium
join:2001-12-28
Wilmington, DE
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Comcast
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October 7th, @06:24AM
| reply to Dnepr
said by Dnepr  :FL is live with Re-Alignment. Though a whole bunch of channels are "Coming soon". Be glad you at least have them marked "Coming Soon". 
Well, that now makes only California still live with the "old lineup"! |
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darcilicious
Cyber Librarian
Premium
join:2001-01-02
Forest Grove, OR
·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast
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said by Dnepr :one thing is annoying to me is that HD channels start not at 500 but at 503... meh. Is your first local channel "3" or "0"? Our first HD channel is 502 to correspond to our first local channel "2". |
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galette
join:2004-11-25
Tampa, FL | reply to davemanfl
I found out the dvr schedule was updated too.
You don't need to do any modification.
Now the issue is the DVR capability to record only 20 hours in HD. |
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keyboards
join:2001-02-14
Doylestown, PA
·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast
| reply to darcilicious
said by darcilicious :said by Dnepr :one thing is annoying to me is that HD channels start not at 500 but at 503... meh. Is your first local channel "3" or "0"? Our first HD channel is 502 to correspond to our first local channel "2". At least that makes sense. For the Philly channels we start at 510 for channel 10 and then channel 3 is 511 and channel 6 is 514 - go figure the sense for that one 
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bjdraw
@talbots.com
| Part of this is up to the affiliate. Channel 3 wants to be at channel 503 since it is part of their brand.
Channel 44 wants to be at 5 because they hate being so high on the dial and look at it as an opportunity to get in front of new viewers.
Personally this brings up my favorite feature of Vista Media Center with CableCARDs, which allow me to remap any channel number I want, so channel 508 is channel 8 etc. Even better with the recent TV Pack update, I can now set my clear QAM tuner to have a higher priority per channel to help automatically resolve recording conflicts. |
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keyboards
join:2001-02-14
Doylestown, PA
·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast
| said by bjdraw :
Part of this is up to the affiliate. Channel 3 wants to be at channel 503 since it is part of their brand.
That makes sense and is what I'd expect, so why is it at 511 (re-read my original post) and channel 6 at 514?
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afiggatt
join:2007-07-12
Sterling, VA
| said by keyboards :That makes sense and is what I'd expect, so why is it at 511 (re-read my original post) and channel 6 at 514? Look at the NYC, Mercer County NJ local channel line-ups. The local channel assignments are muddled, but I think the reason that the Philadelphia locals start at 510 is so that Verizon can have two separate blocks of NYC & Philly locals in the channel line-up for Mercer county.
The pattern is more clear for the combined DC and Baltimore line-ups in Anne Arundel-Howard County market which is between DC & Baltimore. The DC locals in the Washington Metro market are in the 503-509 range which works as broadcast 4,5,7,9 are the big four here. The Baltimore locals (broadcast 2,11,13,45,54) are placed at 510-514. The two PBS operations, Maryland Public TV (WMPT 22 is the flagship station near Annapolis) and WETA 26 in DC are at 522 & 526 and are made available to all 3 markets - Washington Metro, Anne Arundel-Howard, and Baltimore. So they have the major DC stations at 503-509, and Baltimore at 510-514 with the PBS stations common to all markets at 522 & 526. The Howard Univ PBS station in DC, WHUT PBS 32, is currently SD only but is reported to be working towards to upgrade to HD. WHUT-DT HD can be put at 532 which presents no conflicts. The Ion Network boss recently said they are planning to upgrade their broadcast to HD in January 09. So Verizon will have to pick out a 5xx channel slot for the Ion HD feed. Which for the DC market is WPXW-DT Ion 66 so they will probably stick it at 508 or something. |
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keyboards
join:2001-02-14
Doylestown, PA
·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast
| said by afiggatt :said by keyboards :That makes sense and is what I'd expect, so why is it at 511 (re-read my original post) and channel 6 at 514? Look at the NYC, Mercer County NJ local channel line-ups. The local channel assignments are muddled, but I think the reason that the Philadelphia locals start at 510 is so that Verizon can have two separate blocks of NYC & Philly locals in the channel line-up for Mercer county. Used to live in Mercer county. As far as the OTA VHF channels go, there are no overlaps or conflicts. 3,6,10, and 12 are out of Philly and 2,4,5,7,9,11, and 13 are out of NY / North Jersey and 8 is not in either market (this assured no interference between the OTA signals in the areas like Mercer County that could receive both market's signals). So they could have maintained the "branded" channels just fine.
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brandonguy
join:2006-12-01
Valrico, FL | reply to davemanfl
Valrico, FL was changed. Looks like just the channels updated with many 'coming soon' and no update to the img. |
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RECD Designz
join:2003-01-29
Lakeland, FL
·Verizon FIOS
·Optimum Online
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October 7th, @02:19PM
| reply to davemanfl
Got the change here in Lakeland.
Had to reset my HD DVR though to get all the updates. Some channels had moved like the kids channels from the 220 range but were not showing up in there new spots in the 250's. Also had no channels above 900. Unplugging the DVR for a few seconds and then plugging it back in fixed it.
Regular HD receiver was fine - no reset needed. |
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RECD Designz
join:2003-01-29
Lakeland, FL
·Verizon FIOS
·Optimum Online
| reply to darcilicious
said by darcilicious :said by Dnepr :one thing is annoying to me is that HD channels start not at 500 but at 503... meh. Is your first local channel "3" or "0"? Our first HD channel is 502 to correspond to our first local channel "2". Indeed, our first local channel here is 3 (PBS) |
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afiggatt
join:2007-07-12
Sterling, VA
| reply to keyboards
said by keyboards :Used to live in Mercer county. As far as the OTA VHF channels go, there are no overlaps or conflicts. 3,6,10, and 12 are out of Philly and 2,4,5,7,9,11, and 13 are out of NY / North Jersey and 8 is not in either market (this assured no interference between the OTA signals in the areas like Mercer County that could receive both market's signals). So they could have maintained the "branded" channels just fine. Given the distance between Philadelphia and NYC, all of the full power stations in either city will have unique (soon to be historical) analog channel #s. Same will be true of any market that gets stations from 2 cities. So Verizon could assign matching 5xx channel numbers to the broadcast locals up through 549 if they wanted to. Map the high analog number stations and low power stations to open numbers in the 2-49/502-549 range. But Verizon likes to put channels in blocks, so NYC and Philadelphia locals are in unique continuous blocks.
For the national cable channels, most of Verizon groupings make sense - Sports, News, Info & Education, Music, Marketplace, etc. But I have always found the Entertainment & Pop Culture grouping to be confusing. So USA, TNT, Spike are Entertainment, while A&E, Comedy Central, Sci-Fi, ABC Family are Pop Culture? I would have placed all of the 2 channels in those 2 categories into 1 larger group. But this is getting way off topic for the FL gets re-aligned thread. FL finally has more HD channels!
BTW, I see on the Fios channel line-up page, they now say for the 2 full set line-ups for TX and FL "Effective the week of 10/20". I could have sworn yesterday is was just "effective 10/20". |
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matcarl
join:2007-03-09
Franklin Square, NY | No, it said "week of" yesterday also |
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bjdraw
@talbots.com | reply to keyboards
The stations don't always get what they want, I've actually been told by one employee of an affiliate that the channel number can even come up during the contract negotiations. |
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