EveryName
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| Which Canadian city do you think is the most gay friendly? I've lived in Montreal, which was pretty gay friendly. Vancouver seems pretty gay friendly too, but in a different way that Montreal was. Montreal was kind of an unspoken acceptance. In Vancouver, its kind of like everyone makes a huge effort to be accepting. In Montreal it just is, in Vancouver it is, but with what seems like lots of effort.
There seems to be lots of gay people in Alberta, but I never noticed it being very gay friendly when I was there.
So, in your opinion would it be Toronto, Montreal, Calgary or another city? | |
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tyler00
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Pickering, ON | Re: Which Canadian city do you think is the most gay friendly? If you've lived in Montreal, you probably aren't going to find a more gay friendly city.
Toronto has the biggest pride weekend in Canada for sure... so obviously it's up there but it's not like Montreal! | |
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| Let's face it... Outside of small towns in the prairies and northern Ontario, all of Canada is pretty much gay friendly... Don't forget we're one of the few nations in the world who has legalized gay marriage...
I really don't see the point in trying to start a pissing contest about which major city is the most gay friendly. Pretty much any major Canadian city with a sizable gay community qualifies as much as any other...
Then again one has to wonder if Harper would try to raise this issue back from the dead if he were to win a majority in this election??? | |
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EveryName
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| Re: Which Canadian city do you think is the most gay friendly? said by happylurk :
Let's face it... Outside of small towns in the prairies and northern Ontario, all of Canada is pretty much gay friendly... Don't forget we're one of the few nations in the world who has legalized gay marriage...
I really don't see the point in trying to start a pissing contest about which major city is the most gay friendly. Pretty much any major Canadian city with a sizable gay community qualifies as much as any other...
Then again one has to wonder if Harper would try to raise this issue back from the dead if he were to win a majority in this election???
That's a great answer. It wasn't supposed to be a pissing contest.
What about the east coast? Its it as accepting as the rest? | |
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| Re: Which Canadian city do you think is the most gay friendly? Again, I haven't been to the east coast since the 80's, but I'd be willing to assume that Moncton and Fredericton and Halifax would have statistically significant gay communities as much as the next town.
Chances are you'll find gay bashers in every community as well, but my experience has been that even small towners aren't as openly anti-gay as they might have been 20 years ago.
Let's face it. The odd white supremacist or anti-whatever hate crime tends to make national headlines in this country. While even those are few and far between, I honestly can't remember any journalistic coverage whatsoever concerning a gay bashing incident in the past 15 years... | |
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| said by EveryName  :What about the east coast? Its it as accepting as the rest? My great uncle was gay and owned a gay bar in St. John's, Nfld and never had any issues. I also worked at an independent bookstore in St. John's when I was ~18 and we had a pretty robust gay/lesbian section and a fairly large clientele for the section. From my experiences I would say that St. John's was more "gay friendly" then the suburbs of the GTA albeit I've never seen any particular anti-gay sentiment in the GTA 'burbs.
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| Re: Which Canadian city do you think is the most gay friendly? said by Krispy :said by EveryName :What about the east coast? Its it as accepting as the rest? My great uncle was gay and owned a gay bar in St. John's, Nfld and never had any issues. I also worked at an independent bookstore in St. John's when I was ~18 and we had a pretty robust gay/lesbian section and a fairly large clientele for the section. From my experiences I would say that St. John's was more "gay friendly" then the suburbs of the GTA albeit I've never seen any particular anti-gay sentiment in the GTA 'burbs. Can you expand on the robust gay/lesbian section, and specifically why the word robust aroused your vocabulary acumen?
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| Re: Which Canadian city do you think is the most gay friendly? said by Anav :Can you expand on the robust gay/lesbian section, and specifically why the word robust aroused your vocabulary acumen? Heh, that was quite a while ago so I have no memory of what was there but it was a fair sized section in the store. As for the use of the word robust...it's just a good word!
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Canada | Are you bi? You list "cute boys & cute girls" as two of your interests... | |
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EveryName
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Montreal | Re: Which Canadian city do you think is the most gay friendly? Yes, i'm bi. | |
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| Re: Which Canadian city do you think is the most gay friendly? said by EveryName :Yes, i'm bi. i hope you are a female.
the only reason i say that is when i read "cute boys and cute girls" listed as your interests, it seems to have a different "meaning" if it is coming from a male versus a female.
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| Re: Which Canadian city do you think is the most gay friendly? Male or not, how does it change the context?
From the self proclaimed men and women deserve equal treatment in all (including divorce) advocate, I'm quite taken aback.
I think that says more about how you read into it, than what the true context is.
It's like me saying I love hot bitches. So thats right, i love angered pms'ing women. And if you were to infer that, you'd partially be right  It's all how you read it jeffer. | |
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EveryName
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| Re: Which Canadian city do you think is the most gay friendly? said by EveryName :No I'm not.. and I don't see how it makes any difference. well, others have "read" the same thing i did...you didn't mean it that way, so that's ok, don't worry about it...i just think you should use "guys" instead of "boys"..."boys" usually refers to a prepubescent male, so one would normally think under the age of about 14...that is why there is some "confusion".
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| Re: Which Canadian city do you think is the most gay friendly? what's with the rolling eyes?...i don't care if you are bi nor would i criticize you for your preferences...i was simply pointing out something many of us thought was "questionable"...you didn't intend it to be that way, so don't worry about it, we were just wondering, that's all.
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EveryName
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Montreal | Re: Which Canadian city do you think is the most gay friendly? Its all good. I changed it. I understand your point. | |
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dirtyjeffer
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| Re: Which Canadian city do you think is the most gay friendly? no probs...i just wouldn't want someone else, who may not be as understandable, and may already not "approve" of your lifestyle to begin with, falsely judge you.
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Dan
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| See I've seen gays refer to other men as boys.
Ive also seen women call a partner a boy toy.
This notion that boy refers to the underage, is truly wrong, and again, shows where the majority of people's minds slide when they have to infer the meaning.
Oh thats right, our language needs us to misspell to convey real meaning, so I guess we slap a Z and no ones offended.
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| Re: Which Canadian city do you think is the most gay friendly? said by Dan :This notion that boy refers to the underage, is truly wrong, and again, shows where the majority of people's minds slide when they have to infer the meaning. nonsense...it isn't a notion, it is one of the definitions of the noun "boy":
"A young male, usually a child or adolescent."
»en.wiktionary.org/wiki/boy
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| Re: Which Canadian city do you think is the most gay friendly? It's a truly strange twist that our language has had, where the definition of "boy" still for the most part conjures up the image of a male under the age of about 16, but the term "girl" which by definition should be a juvenile female, actually works for females of all ages.
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"Girls night out" can be had by a group of females in their 30's and 40's. Sometimes can be referred to as "lady's night out or women's night out" but almost exclusively called girl's night out.
"Boy's night out" is almost never used - it's "Guy's night out" to refer to a similar event. Sometimes could be referred to as "men's night out" but pretty much exclusively called "guy's night out"...
So in general conversation for now, perhaps the language will change with time as it always does, but it seems we have the following : boy: male below 16, guy: male of most any age from about 13 and up to geriatric age, girl: female of any age from child to pensioner age, lady or woman: female over the age of about 17 or 18.
As to the original topic - for small cities I think Kingston is quite an accepting and gay friendly city - there are pride parades, an active gay "nightlife", tons of gay community events, etc -- my wife and I have several friends in the gay community, both male and female, and they have for the most part reported that it's "much easier here" than in some of the other places they have lived (Ottawa, Windsor, Waterloo, Hamilton, and Winnipeg to name a few of the towns some of them were previously from). | |
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S. Ontario | Re: Which Canadian city do you think is the most gay friendly? I'm not so sure that a tourism brochure is a good barometer for lack of prejudice. Just sayin' | |
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Brantford, ON | Any city is Gay friendly, as long as you don't run around asking for trouble.. or asking silly questions
Next topic.. which Canadian city is most heterosexual friendly? | |
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Anav
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Dartmouth, NS | Not sure about friendly, but I would hazard a guess that Edmonton and Calgary are quite emotional about the subject. | |
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| Re: Which Canadian city do you think is the most gay friendly? said by Anav :Not sure about friendly, but I would hazard a guess that Edmonton and Calgary are quite emotional about the subject. Emotional? I would say indifferent. It's not a hot topic for debate here. While maybe not the gay friendliest cities, they're not outright hostile either.
I would rate Edmonton as a little bit friendlier than Calgary. Calgary does have an active gay community and annual Gay Pride parade. | |
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Stoney Creek, ON | I always thought Dildo, NL would be a gay friendly city.
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| Even the little hillbilly town where I"m from is pretty gay friendly.
However, I think you might have a different meaning then I do. When I say gay friendly I mean no one cares that your gay and expects that you act like a normal human being sure. Do I mean giant gay pride pride weekends with drag queens and everything else, not so much. If you have equal rights that are never going away that should be enough. | |
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BigSensFan
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Whitby, ON | Being "bi" does that not add to a more promiscuous lifestyle and more risk for disease?
And as for the term "cute boys" it makes it sound like you mean little boys. I think the term "cute guys" would probably go over better | |
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EveryName
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| Re: Which Canadian city do you think is the most gay friendly? said by BigSensFan :Being "bi" does that not add to a more promiscuous lifestyle and more risk for disease? And as for the term "cute boys" it makes it sound like you mean little boys. I think the term "cute guys" would probably go over better I don't think it does. I didn't write "cute little boys" did I? And I like how you never mentioned the fact that I wrote girls either. Should I have written women instead? | |
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| Re: Which Canadian city do you think is the most gay friendly? The difference is that an adult male saying 'I Like Girls' doesn't conjure up images of pedophilia like saying 'I like boys' does. Even the absense of the word 'little' can make it appear that way.
It's the nature of the language unfortunately. | |
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Canada | I think women who are older sometimes use the term 'gal' rather than the 'girl', to refer themselves. | |
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EveryName
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| What about a university football coach, or the team captain who says "Alright boys! Let's go!"
Or what about when a bunch of guys are sitting around drinking beer, watching the hockey game and they're screaming the same thing?
I don't think these situations involving grown men involve anyone under 18, and yet "boys" is clearly mentioned. | |
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| Our language is quite flawed, thats the only real truth here. In a language where a word can have serious negative connotations, but at the same time be an in word and used in many slang word situations, there is most certainly some issues.
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| said by EveryName : In Vancouver, its kind of like everyone makes a huge effort to be accepting. Everyone?? You need to get out more instead of hanging out with your gay friends on Robson street.
You are more tolerated than accepted. Venture out beyond your safe zone and see how accepted you are. | |
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EveryName
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2 edits | Re: Which Canadian city do you think is the most gay friendly? said by Mats :said by EveryName : In Vancouver, its kind of like everyone makes a huge effort to be accepting. Everyone?? You need to get out more instead of hanging out with your gay friends on Robson street. You are more tolerated than accepted. Venture out beyond your safe zone and see how accepted you are. You completely misunderstood me. In Vancouver the supporters of the gay community (which does not include everyone - obviously) seem to have be straining to make an effort, as if they have to. It doesn't seem natural. An example would be a bunch of people who supported hockey, and the Canucks, but had zero interest in the game.
Whereas in Montreal, the acceptance, or tolerance for that matter, seems to come naturally and is without persuasion. Montreal hockey fans are hockey fans. Point final calisse.
PS. Thanks for pointing out how homophobic you are. Educate yourself before you judge. We all have different desires, and should not be judged for them, no matter what they are. We all deserve the same respect, no matter what race, religion, gender, ethnicity, or sexual preference we have. Please don't post in my thread, if you are going to say stuff like that again. And i'm asking you respectfully. | |
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| Re: Which Canadian city do you think is the most gay friendly? said by EveryName : In Vancouver the supporters of the gay community (which does not include everyone - obviously) seem to have be straining to make an effort, as if they have to. It doesn't seem natural. I agree with you now that you have made yourself clear. It isnt natural.
said by EveryName :Educate yourself before you judge. We all have different desires, and should not be judged for them, no matter what they are. Sounds like you are the one who needs to educate yourself. People are judged every day for how they are.
said by EveryName :Please don't post in my thread, if you are going to say stuff like that again. And i'm asking you respectfully. Don't post in your thread just because I dont agree with your opinion? You shouldn't post if you cant handle the responses no matter what they are. You made a blanket statement about Vancouver and I gave you my opinion about it. | |
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| said by Mats :said by EveryName : In Vancouver, its kind of like everyone makes a huge effort to be accepting. Everyone?? You need to get out more instead of hanging out with your gay friends on Robson street. You are more tolerated than accepted. Venture out beyond your safe zone and see how accepted you are. Speaking of being tolerated... where in the Lower Mainland do you live..wait don't tell me...  
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2 edits | Re: Which Canadian city do you think is the most gay friendly? I don't get how something so personal can still be a big deal. It doesn't affect anyone who's not involved. | |
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tyler00
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Pickering, ON | I was interested to see how this thread got to 3 pages.
Disappointed that I wasted time reading 2 pages of PM's! | |
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