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Re: Which Canadian city do you think is the most gay friendly?
Are you bi? You list "cute boys & cute girls" as two of your interests... |
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EveryName
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Montreal | Yes, i'm bi. |
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dirtyjeffer
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| said by EveryName  :Yes, i'm bi. i hope you are a female.
the only reason i say that is when i read "cute boys and cute girls" listed as your interests, it seems to have a different "meaning" if it is coming from a male versus a female.
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Dan
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| Male or not, how does it change the context?
From the self proclaimed men and women deserve equal treatment in all (including divorce) advocate, I'm quite taken aback.
I think that says more about how you read into it, than what the true context is.
It's like me saying I love hot bitches. So thats right, i love angered pms'ing women. And if you were to infer that, you'd partially be right  It's all how you read it jeffer. |
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EveryName
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No I'm not.. and I don't see how it makes any difference. |
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dirtyjeffer
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| said by EveryName :No I'm not.. and I don't see how it makes any difference. well, others have "read" the same thing i did...you didn't mean it that way, so that's ok, don't worry about it...i just think you should use "guys" instead of "boys"..."boys" usually refers to a prepubescent male, so one would normally think under the age of about 14...that is why there is some "confusion".
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EveryName
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dirtyjeffer
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| what's with the rolling eyes?...i don't care if you are bi nor would i criticize you for your preferences...i was simply pointing out something many of us thought was "questionable"...you didn't intend it to be that way, so don't worry about it, we were just wondering, that's all.
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EveryName
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Montreal | Its all good. I changed it. I understand your point. |
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dirtyjeffer
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| no probs...i just wouldn't want someone else, who may not be as understandable, and may already not "approve" of your lifestyle to begin with, falsely judge you.
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Dan
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See I've seen gays refer to other men as boys.
Ive also seen women call a partner a boy toy.
This notion that boy refers to the underage, is truly wrong, and again, shows where the majority of people's minds slide when they have to infer the meaning.
Oh thats right, our language needs us to misspell to convey real meaning, so I guess we slap a Z and no ones offended.
Boyz oh Boyz. |
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dirtyjeffer
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| said by Dan :This notion that boy refers to the underage, is truly wrong, and again, shows where the majority of people's minds slide when they have to infer the meaning. nonsense...it isn't a notion, it is one of the definitions of the noun "boy":
"A young male, usually a child or adolescent."
»en.wiktionary.org/wiki/boy
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Hydraglass
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| It's a truly strange twist that our language has had, where the definition of "boy" still for the most part conjures up the image of a male under the age of about 16, but the term "girl" which by definition should be a juvenile female, actually works for females of all ages.
I.e.
"Girls night out" can be had by a group of females in their 30's and 40's. Sometimes can be referred to as "lady's night out or women's night out" but almost exclusively called girl's night out.
"Boy's night out" is almost never used - it's "Guy's night out" to refer to a similar event. Sometimes could be referred to as "men's night out" but pretty much exclusively called "guy's night out"...
So in general conversation for now, perhaps the language will change with time as it always does, but it seems we have the following : boy: male below 16, guy: male of most any age from about 13 and up to geriatric age, girl: female of any age from child to pensioner age, lady or woman: female over the age of about 17 or 18.
As to the original topic - for small cities I think Kingston is quite an accepting and gay friendly city - there are pride parades, an active gay "nightlife", tons of gay community events, etc -- my wife and I have several friends in the gay community, both male and female, and they have for the most part reported that it's "much easier here" than in some of the other places they have lived (Ottawa, Windsor, Waterloo, Hamilton, and Winnipeg to name a few of the towns some of them were previously from). |
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dirtyjeffer
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| said by Hydraglass :
So in general conversation for now, perhaps the language will change with time as it always does, but it seems we have the following : boy: male below 16, guy: male of most any age from about 13 and up to geriatric age,
i would agree with that.
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girl: female of any age from child to pensioner age,
well, i don't know if i would go as far as a pensioner...in fact, through casual conversation, i don't think i refer to a female over 35 as a "girl"...that's when they reach the cougar age. 
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lady or woman: female over the age of about 17 or 18.
hmmm...i seem to find lady or woman is most commonly used for females over the age of at least 30 for some reason.
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Hydraglass
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| said by dirtyjeffer :well, i don't know if i would go as far as a pensioner...in fact, through casual conversation, i don't think i refer to a female over 35 as a "girl"...that's when they reach the cougar age. Well.. most of the cougars I know and associate with still call themselves "girls" for the most part - several in their 40s and early 50s, who still say things like "I'm going out with the girls tonight" or "us recently re-single girls, we're a crazy bunch" -- so maybe not geriatric or pensioner - but at least to their early 50s I know my wife hits me over the head every time I'm "checking out some girl" in her words (even if the temporary object of my attention is 45).
And to be back on topic - pretty much all the females I know in the gay community refer to each other as "girls" regardless of age... but again I don't really know any older than their early 50s or so. |
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