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fuziwuzi
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No Wi-Fi????

Serious, serious mistake. That makes it useless, in my opinion. Why on Earth would they produce an "advanced" phone that has everything except Wi-Fi?

Next!....


33591094

join:2002-11-19
Canada

Agreed - it should be a standard feature at this point.

Huge mistake, RIM. The iPhone will eat that for lunch, when it comes to Verizon.
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aaronwt
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Well Verizon is the one that passed on the iPhone. They had the chance to be the exclusive seller of it, but passed.


dlewis23

join:2005-04-18
Boca Raton, FL

reply to 33591094

said by 33591094:

The iPhone will eat that for lunch, when it comes to Verizon.
The iPhone is not coming to verizon anytime soon, and one who believes it is coming, is an idiot.

In the contact that apple and AT&T have, AT&T has in there saying that apple can not make a CDMA version.


Matt
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reply to fuziwuzi

said by fuziwuzi:

Serious, serious mistake. That makes it useless, in my opinion. Why on Earth would they produce an "advanced" phone that has everything except Wi-Fi?

Next!....
Because WiFi sucks batteries? And if you have a BB with Verizon you already have an unlimited EVDO account?
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reply to fuziwuzi

said by fuziwuzi:

Serious, serious mistake. That makes it useless, in my opinion. Why on Earth would they produce an "advanced" phone that has everything except Wi-Fi?

Next!....
Well think about it this way - with all Verizon Blackberries, you MUST have the data package and therefore have data access already available via EVDO and the BIS/BES server.
The Samsung SCH i760 PDA for Verizon has WIFI so there must be a good reason they left it off this phone but then again, I don't see them calling you or me for advice. They do what they want to do...


33591094

join:2002-11-19
Canada

reply to aaronwt
Really? I did not know that. The telecommunication companies really are run by complete and utter morons, aren't they?
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chlen
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reply to fuziwuzi
I dont get the need for wifi on these phones...

I dont have VZ, but I have sprint and data is unlimited. If EVDO on VZ is anything like Sprint then why have your phone cost more and suck up battery. My palm does just fine at 1.5mbit on average. HSPDA is nowhere as fast as EVDO on Sprint, so I get why you may want it there, but if you average 1.5mbit why do you need wifi?



Matt
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said by chlen:

I dont get the need for wifi on these phones...

I dont have VZ, but I have sprint and data is unlimited. If EVDO on VZ is anything like Sprint then why have your phone cost more and suck up battery. My palm does just fine at 1.5mbit on average. HSPDA is nowhere as fast as EVDO on Sprint, so I get why you may want it there, but if you average 1.5mbit why do you need wifi?
You're exactly right. My old XV6700 had WiFi, but since I had unlimited EVDO I NEVER used the WiFi ... EVDO worked great everywhere I went.

When I did use the WiFi, it ate my batteries for lunch.
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fuziwuzi
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reply to chlen
What's your "cap" on that EVDO or HSPDA? With Wi-Fi I'd not have to bother wondering if I'm going to hit the limit on that "unlimited" data plan.

A smartphone without Wi-Fi is just a dead duck, IMHO.



Matt
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said by fuziwuzi:

What's your "cap" on that EVDO or HSPDA? With Wi-Fi I'd not have to bother wondering if I'm going to hit the limit on that "unlimited" data plan.

A smartphone without Wi-Fi is just a dead duck, IMHO.
Who in the hell uses more than 5GB a month via their PDA phone? I have Activesync email PUSH phone and I rarely use more than 50MB a month. And I get a boatload of email.
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chlen
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reply to fuziwuzi

said by fuziwuzi:

What's your "cap" on that EVDO or HSPDA? With Wi-Fi I'd not have to bother wondering if I'm going to hit the limit on that "unlimited" data plan.

A smartphone without Wi-Fi is just a dead duck, IMHO.
no cap that I know off...but I only have 4gb of space on my phone, how much do you think you can DL into a phone?

When I use my phone as a modem, I download movies onto my laptop...with Sprint never saw a cap.
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reply to Matt

said by Matt:

Because WiFi sucks batteries? And if you have a BB with Verizon you already have an unlimited EVDO account?
OK, but what do you do when you are in a poor coverage area? In LA, because of the terrain you can't count on cell coverage being great wheverver you go, no matter what provider you're on. If wifi is a battery drain you can always turn it off.
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moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD

reply to fuziwuzi

Verizon has a history of shutting down things like this because it might take away from their revenue stream. No Wi-Fi makes it easier to say no.

Blackberry I think will be having a difficult time in the near future.


EPS

join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA

reply to fuziwuzi
The phone is rather large as it were, with GSM, HSDPA, CDMA, EV-DO, and GPS already in there- it was probably left out because of size considerations more than anything else (as it were half the comments I see about this thing elsewhere are "lol itz huge")

In any case, who uses their cell-phone at home anyway? Especially considering that VZW doesn't offer any sort of UMA service, which might I guess be useful if you wanted to drop the landline and got poor coverage at home.

I don't think this was a VZW order, though, because the Vodafone Storm 9500 doesn't have WiFi either. Vodafone even carries the One Holy iPhone in some markets, so I don't think they have anything against WiFi.



RickNY
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said by EPS:

The phone is rather large as it were, with GSM, HSDPA, CDMA, EV-DO, and GPS already in there- it was probably left out because of size considerations more than anything else (as it were half the comments I see about this thing elsewhere are "lol itz huge")
It has almost the same footprint as an iPhone widthwise, and it isnt as long as an iPhone.. And its a lil over 1.5mm thicker than the iPhone.. Why is everyone saying its huge?

112.5mm L (iPhone: 115.5mm)
62.2mm W (iPhone: 62.1mm)
13.95mm D (iPhone: 12.3mm)

splat1622

join:2008-09-08
Cave Spring, GA

reply to chlen

said by chlen:

I dont get the need for wifi on these phones...

I dont have VZ, but I have sprint and data is unlimited. If EVDO on VZ is anything like Sprint then why have your phone cost more and suck up battery. My palm does just fine at 1.5mbit on average. HSPDA is nowhere as fast as EVDO on Sprint, so I get why you may want it there, but if you average 1.5mbit why do you need wifi?
maybe because you are paying extra for that data plan,if it had wifi on it,and you had access to wifi it is free.my wife has verizons palm centro great phone but does not have wifi on it either in which we are forced to pay 40 dollars a month just for the unlimited data plan that she could use for free if it had wifi.not putting wifi on their phones is just a way to force you to buy their expensive data plan,and use their 3g network,and not use free wifi


ptrowski
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reply to djrobx

said by djrobx:

said by Matt:

Because WiFi sucks batteries? And if you have a BB with Verizon you already have an unlimited EVDO account?
OK, but what do you do when you are in a poor coverage area? In LA, because of the terrain you can't count on cell coverage being great wheverver you go, no matter what provider you're on. If wifi is a battery drain you can always turn it off.
Good example there. I get 2 bars in my house, sometimes 3 and am in Edge territory. Wifi on the iPhone gets me around 3.3 mbps download, so for me, wifi is crucial.
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EPS

join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA

reply to RickNY
It might be an optical illusion thing from the shape? The iPhone has curved edges which make it look thinner, while this seems to have sharper edges on the sides.



Count Zero
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Warner Robins, GA

reply to Matt
in my apartment even Verizon doesn't get coverage. So at least with wifi my iPhone can use Internet features. Plus wifi let's me control my apple tv and airport express/iPod hifi speakers in my bedroom using my iPhone as the remote. That feature wows guests all the time. Not having wifi is a mistake. Plus wifi is faster than evdo.


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