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Matt
All noise, no signal.
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reply to fuziwuzi

Re: No Wi-Fi????

I think everyone is missing the point. WiFi doesn't matter to the intended audience for this device. They are not trying to compete head-to-head with the iPhone. They want the biz market and those folks don't care about WiFi.
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MPScan
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join:2001-08-24
Boston, MA

reply to 33591094

said by 33591094:

Really? I did not know that. The telecommunication companies really are run by complete and utter morons, aren't they?

Actually, the main reason that Verizon passed on the iPhone is because of the amount of control that Apple wanted over the handset. For example, requiring the phone to be sent back to Apple for a battery replacement. Verizon wasn't willing to do that to their customers.


MPScan
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join:2001-08-24
Boston, MA

reply to dlewis23

said by dlewis23:

said by 33591094:

The iPhone will eat that for lunch, when it comes to Verizon.
The iPhone is not coming to verizon anytime soon, and one who believes it is coming, is an idiot.

In the contact that apple and AT&T have, AT&T has in there saying that apple can not make a CDMA version.

Yes, but that contract has an expiration, of I think 5 years, at which point Apple is free to produce a similar product for Verizon if both parties agree and AT&T can't do squat about it.


MPScan
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join:2001-08-24
Boston, MA

reply to ptrowski
That's because the AT&T network sucks ass. With the Verizon EVDO network, there isn't really a need for WiFi, at least in the Northeast, where their network is superior to any other carrier.


dlewis23

join:2005-04-18
Boca Raton, FL

reply to MPScan

said by MPScan:

said by dlewis23:

said by 33591094:

The iPhone will eat that for lunch, when it comes to Verizon.
The iPhone is not coming to verizon anytime soon, and one who believes it is coming, is an idiot.

In the contact that apple and AT&T have, AT&T has in there saying that apple can not make a CDMA version.

Yes, but that contract has an expiration, of I think 5 years, at which point Apple is free to produce a similar product for Verizon if both parties agree and AT&T can't do squat about it.
Yea till they sign a new contact for the 3rd get iPhone.


ptrowski
Got Helix?
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join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
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reply to MPScan

said by MPScan:

That's because the AT&T network sucks ass. With the Verizon EVDO network, there isn't really a need for WiFi, at least in the Northeast, where their network is superior to any other carrier.
You are in Boston, I am in rural CT. Two totally different markets, chief.
My neighbor works at the Verizon store in Millbury, Ma. Great reception there, not so hot here.
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eco
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join:2001-11-28
Wilmington, DE

reply to Matt
That may have used to have been true but speaking as an iPhone 3G user, wifi used way less battery than 3G does and I really doubt EVDO gets that much better battery life than HSPA.


eco
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join:2001-11-28
Wilmington, DE

reply to EPS

said by EPS:

In any case, who uses their cell-phone at home anyway? Especially considering that VZW doesn't offer any sort of UMA service, which might I guess be useful if you wanted to drop the landline and got poor coverage at home.
I for one do. A land line is a waste of money and these days I'm on the internet twice as much on my phone as I am on my computer


aaronwt
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join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
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·Verizon FiOS

reply to MPScan

said by MPScan:

said by 33591094:

Really? I did not know that. The telecommunication companies really are run by complete and utter morons, aren't they?

Actually, the main reason that Verizon passed on the iPhone is because of the amount of control that Apple wanted over the handset. For example, requiring the phone to be sent back to Apple for a battery replacement. Verizon wasn't willing to do that to their customers.
But in Hindsight, after the massive numbers of people that the iPhone brought to At&T, I would think Verizon would have made the changes if they had it to do over again.


NetAdmin1
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join:2008-05-22

reply to Matt

said by Matt:

They want the biz market and those folks don't care about WiFi.
I do. When I walk into the steel and concrete buildings that our company has, the kind that block cell phone signals QUITE well, WIFI would be a welcome addition to my phone.
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macedon
Jazz me baby
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join:2006-02-12
North York, ON

reply to fuziwuzi
agreed

its puzzuling



ARHerrington

@65.162.78.x

reply to 33591094
Seriously, this is a mistake! If you think about, customers that are actually going to buy this phone are more than likely on some kind of company plan where the BES is already going to be paid for, so if Verizon is worried about loosing money on the Data plans with Wi-Fi enabled, they seriously need to take another look. You would imagine that the engineers would love to see less of strain on the EVDO network.

Someone needs to explain please.



raw
War Eagle
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join:2001-01-17
Madison, AL

reply to MPScan
You can't make those kind of generalizations. Here in MD (close to the Bay), there is minimal signal to be found in most of the residential areas of Anne Arundel County, despite relatively flat terrain. The odds of you getting EVDO coverage indoors is extremely slim. I myself can't get more than 1 bar of 1xRTT indoors, leading to numerous dropped calls and frequent hour+ text message delays.


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