pnh102
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said by nasadude  :I don't have the answers, but this canard the government can't do anything is a load of bull. Except for the fact that pretty much everything the government has gotten into that is beyond the scope of its duly delegated powers has proven this notion correct.
said by nasadude :the government can't do anything right when it's run by incompetents that don't believe in government - I believe that's been amply proved over the last several years. And during this time, the private sector has succeeding in expanding broadband availability all through the country with no money from taxpayers. Given government's proven track record of failure, why should we entrust it with something as important as broadband?
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pnh102
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said by funchords :Maybe you're on ignore because you don't add any substance. No, I think people ignore me simply because they do not agree with me. I don't bother to ignore anyone because I don't care enough about them to put them on ignore.
said by funchords :I have just read 6 definitive messages in a row from you, none exhibiting any hint of critical thinking that might challenge your own positions. And exactly what did I say that was incorrect?said by funchords :We've had less than 1 percent of additional penetration -- in two years! Complete bull. There are numerous places that have gotten broadband that did not have it before. You can see numerous examples posted on this very site about private companies extending service to previously unserved areas. That can't possibly be an increase of 1%.
said by funchords : So how do YOU purport to increase the availability of broadband to more Americans? I believe that people who want broadband should invest their own private funds to build their own broadband solutions without the government getting involved.
said by funchords :On the other hand, if the government does decide to take a role in retaking our top broadband ranking someday, what do you think should it do to move forward? I really do not believe that this is as important as people think it is. Other countries that have invested significant tax revenue to build higher-end networks still have yet to surpass us in terms of GDP.
said by funchords :If you're just going to be offended or give me back another flat answer, then don't bother. I don't understand how you have concluded that I get offended ?
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pnh102
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said by Sammer :Their corporations depend on there being a lawful society and when corporate greed exceeds reasonable boundaries that isn't possible. Doesn't the government bail-out tell you something? There has to be limits to corporate greed just as we have laws against theft or our economy will collapse. I agree with you that companies must be expected to operate within the law. I also have believed that any bailout was wrong. I think that the markets would have sufficiently punished companies that behaved badly by allowing them to go under had the government not bailed them out.
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said by pnh102 :I don't understand how you have concluded that I get offended ? Because you generally haven't been appearing to come here with any desire to learn and grow, nor do you feed those desires in others.
I really do not believe that this is as important as people think it is. Other countries that have invested significant tax revenue to build higher-end networks still have yet to surpass us in terms of GDP. THERE. Thank you. This is good stuff.
I see a correlation between a strong per-capita GDP and broadband penetration.
Take a look at this report »www.itif.org/index.php?id=143
or this report »www.websiteoptimization.com/bw/0809/
and compare it to the per-capita GDP »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co···r_capita (sort the "rank" columns to see the data) and many of the same names pop out. While the relationship isn't perfect (expensive oil and cheap labor tend to skew some countries), I cannot conclude that availability of broadband and national productivity are unrelated.
I believe that people who want broadband should invest their own private funds to build their own broadband solutions without the government getting involved. I know that's what you want. But let's, theoretically, say that you don't get your first wish and we're going to do this. What is the best way to proceed and why?
There are numerous places that have gotten broadband that did not have it before. You can see numerous examples posted on this very site about private companies extending service to previously unserved areas. That can't possibly be an increase of 1%. What examples?
I am slightly off, I thought it was 2006-2008. The OECD data shows that between 2006 and 2007 years, the U.S. has advanced 1.36% and Canada is 0.00. So (for us in the US) it's one year and more than 1%. I really don't think 2008 will come in very strong, do you?
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vinnie97
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Oh but the Bush admin threatened Martial Law would be an inevitability if said bailout wasn't passed. |
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