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ptrowski
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Re: Yet another Vonage is a goner article...

said by MTBikerChris:

I agree. HOW are they alive still? DIE all ready .
Good god no...
If Vonage crashes that is a HUGE hit for the VoIP industry.
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jester121
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Naw, it's just a hit to the Vonage business model where they pay huge dollars to acquire each new sub and hope/pray that they'll stick around for 2+ years to complete the payback.



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said by ptrowski:

said by MTBikerChris:

I agree. HOW are they alive still? DIE all ready .
Good god no...
If Vonage crashes that is a HUGE hit for the VoIP industry.
Vonage is maybe 15% of the VoIP industry( not counting skype ) and that % is falling. Both Comcast and TW have more subscribers and Cox isn't too far behind.


ptrowski
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said by BF69:

said by ptrowski:

said by MTBikerChris:

I agree. HOW are they alive still? DIE all ready .
Good god no...
If Vonage crashes that is a HUGE hit for the VoIP industry.
Vonage is maybe 15% of the VoIP industry( not counting skype ) and that % is falling. Both Comcast and TW have more subscribers and Cox isn't too far behind.
It's not a matter of percentage wise, it is the most well known independant VoIP company. People know Vonage, and that would tarnish VoIP as a whole.
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"A religious war is like children fighting over who has the strongest imaginary friend."

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BF69
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said by ptrowski:

It's not a matter of percentage wise, it is the most well known independant VoIP company. People know Vonage, and that would tarnish VoIP as a whole.
Most people don't know what VoIP is or even heard of it.


ptrowski
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said by BF69:

said by ptrowski:

It's not a matter of percentage wise, it is the most well known independant VoIP company. People know Vonage, and that would tarnish VoIP as a whole.
Most people don't know what VoIP is or even heard of it.
I would deabte that. When I menion VoIP to people, they usually say "oh, like Vonage"?
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"A religious war is like children fighting over who has the strongest imaginary friend."

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BF69
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said by ptrowski:

said by BF69:

said by ptrowski:

It's not a matter of percentage wise, it is the most well known independant VoIP company. People know Vonage, and that would tarnish VoIP as a whole.
Most people don't know what VoIP is or even heard of it.
I would deabte that. When I menion VoIP to people, they usually say "oh, like Vonage"?
Come to my town and ask "What is VoiP"?. If you got more than 10% to know what it is I would be shocked. Even people with VoiP don't know what it is.

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said by jester121:

Naw, it's just a hit to the Vonage business model where they pay huge dollars to acquire each new sub and hope/pray that they'll stick around for 2+ years to complete the payback.
Totally agreed- their "business model" is completely flawed, which is again why they're neck-deep in debt.

However I do agree that if they fail it'll be a huge blow to the VoIP industry as a whole. Possible ramifications:

1. Mainstream consumers less likely to buy independent VoIP.
2. Regulation to flat out PREVENT independent VoIP providers from operating.

Kinda like the "you can't sell banking stocks short" thing they're doing right now. A bunch of bankers went wild, and the government thinks limiting the stock market is going to help. Don't be surprised if when Vonage fails we'll get a "you must be a CLEC to offer VoIP" or some other such anti-independent VoIP regulation.
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cline3621
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said by BF69:

Come to my town and ask "What is VoiP"?. If you got more than 10% to know what it is I would be shocked. Even people with VoiP don't know what it is.
Hiya BF69.

I was in your town today installing a few satellite systems.
I didn't ask any of my customers if they knew what Voip is. However I can vouch for your accuracy about people, in your city knowing what VOIP is.

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