beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH
| reply to k1ll3rdr4g0n
Re: Not again...
you are still missing the point. Hacking into your ap is one thing, cracking your wep and then sniffing all of your traffic is the real risk. And it doesn't need to be your neighbor, with a good directional antenna it could be someone nearly a mile away.
Please tell me what "facts" I need to read.
The FACT is wep is insecure, and by using it you are merely making it mildly more inconvenient to sniff your traffic. This is not an opinion (like your mcdonalds analogy), it is a FACT... |
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k1ll3rdr4g0n
join:2005-03-19
Homer Glen, IL
| said by beaups  :you are still missing the point. Hacking into your ap is one thing, cracking your wep and then sniffing all of your traffic is the real risk. And it doesn't need to be your neighbor, with a good directional antenna it could be someone nearly a mile away. Please tell me what "facts" I need to read. The FACT is wep is insecure, and by using it you are merely making it mildly more inconvenient to sniff your traffic. This is not an opinion (like your mcdonalds analogy), it is a FACT... Then can we also agree WPA is insecure as that can also be cracked.
And YOU are missing the point. Is the average person really going to go out and buy an antenna just to crack a random AP to just sniff traffic?
And I never said it was "secure", I'm just saying its not something that you need to ranting about how your "neighbors can easily crack it".
Oh hey look at that WPA seems to be just as "secure" as WEP.
»www.mirrors.wiretapped.net/secur···wpa.html
So, from that should we assume that WPA is "insecure" too? No, it still takes time and money to do that. I can almost say that if you just goto BestBuy and grab a linksys card and pop it into your laptop...it probably wont work.
Btw, your argument really breaks down as "sensitive" stuff like banking and online purchases is almost never sent in clear text. Ok, fine you have my forum account at forum-world.com but is that really something someone is going to go out of their way to get? God, I hope not, for their sake I hope they have better things to do in their free time. Want a copy of my porn collection too? |
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH
2 edits | WPA/WPA2 (if implemented PROPERLY) is quite secure. While of course no security is truly bullet proof, WEP takes literally just a couple minutes to crack.
Dealing with identity theft, while a bank password may or may not be sent in clear text, if you look at many users' habits with passwords it doesn't take long to figure things out. also, simply knowing enough about a person could lead to identity theft, whether they have your passwords or not. For example, a sniffer could know who you bank with, who your car loan is with, your employer, all your credit card institutions, etc. on top of that when you enter your password onto dslreports.com maybe that's the password for some of these other sites. likely your email PW gets sent in plain text so maybe the thief goes to your banking site and clicks the "forgot password" link and checks your email for you and resets it....
The point is, WPA2 is just as easy to setup as WEP...so why not use it? (Unless of course you have a wii). |
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH
| reply to k1ll3rdr4g0n
you should watch the video again. that WPA was broke because the person who setup the AP is an idiot and used a dictionary password and a standard ssid.
set up your ssid as asdjflksafjdk and a password of asdjflkasdj771KK///jjk889 and watch it take a month to crack. |
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
 ·Verizon FIOS
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said by beaups :The point is, WPA2 is just as easy to setup as WEP...so why not use it? (Unless of course you have a wii). I'm fairly certain that I mentioned that WPA was slower than WEP with the devices/equipment that I use, and if anyone has an interest and knows how to crack WEP, I betcha they read up a little on WPA too. This is not my catch-all security implementation, it's simply used to keep ignorant people from connecting to my network after stopping at Best Buy to go wireless. |
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH | wpa2 has no loss in performance. yes you did mention it, you are just incorrect. |
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k1ll3rdr4g0n
join:2005-03-19
Homer Glen, IL
1 edit | said by beaups :wpa2 has no loss in performance. yes you did mention it, you are just incorrect. »www.keenansystems.com/WLAN_perfo···bled.htm
So where is your proof saying WPA has no loss in performance?
So how do you say, "you are just incorrect".
Though kinda revelant:
»ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=102721 |
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH
| reply to k1ll3rdr4g0n
Re: Not again...
1mbps loss??? anyhow, I'll say now for the 3rd or 4th time...WPA2 not WPA. most reviews will show you there is no performance loss in WPA2. note also they are comparing WPA to no encryption at all...not WPA vs. WEP.
I read this somewhere once:
"Arguing on the internet is like competing in the special olympics even if you win, you're still a retard"
This applies to both of us  |
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