kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
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Re: Not again...
said by k1ll3rdr4g0n  :You know this stuff is really starting to *bug* me. Left and right I always see "WEP insecure don't use it", blah blah blah. Anyone with fingers and more than 2 braincells to rub together will realize you can't just crack wireless APs with off the shelf wireless cards (at least the vast majority). That means that your neighbor is probably not going to be a "WEP cracker", so its safe to use WEP in a residential area. I'll bet anyone's neighbor here probably only knows the basics of Word. I would use something more industrial in a apartment area though; as since your signal can encompass more people...but in a urban/rural residential area where there is considerate amount of space between houses WEP is enough to keep the average doodle head from connecting to your wifi and thinking its his. But again why are we even talking about this when the vast majority of people don't even use any protection at all! (Just walk down your street with your laptop, I'll bet you will find at least one open AP with a internet connection.) I am NOT saying it isn't hackable, but for the amount of time it takes...I think some "researchers" are stretching the truth. Somehow I doubt someone can crack a 128bit wep key in a matter of minutes on the average laptop. And for the people that say that WEP is really insecure...again in an urban/rural area is there actually people going around *wasting* their time sitting in a car just to see if they can crack your WEP key? If they are I haven't seen any. If anything they would be driving around trying to find an open wifi AP. Jesus, sweet ignorance. 
I bet you live in some remote place - visit NYC and you'll realize nobody has to go to anywhere, I can see 10+ wifi connection in my home and I live in nice brownstone area, on the corner of the best park in NYC, not in a multi-dwelling apt building area where literally hundreds of wifi APs are within connection range...
WEP is fuckin dead. Use it in any urban area and you get your @ss owned within days.
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said by bicker :Waaaa waaaa waaaa. You just want what you want and don't care to factor in what is right or true. Your perspectives are un-American, and deserve far more ridicule than I'm prepared to pile on them. |
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jhegfwsa56
| The correct word is minutes not days  WEP can be cracked in way less than an hour with REGULAR hardware available at ANY store just pick the right model and that's it. Every store probably have at least two models ready to crack you POS WEP encryption. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
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said by kamm :Jesus, sweet ignorance. I bet you live in some fuckin remote place - visit NYC and you'll realize nobody has to go to anywhere, I can see 10+ wifi connection in my home and I live in nice brownstone area, on the corner of the best park in NYC, not in a multi-dwelling apt building area where literally hundreds of wifi APs are within connection range... ...outside of your shack WEP is fuckin dead, try to understand it. Use it in any urban area and you get your @ss owned within days. Union Square (NYC), each corner of the park has 250 APs visible, chance of connecting to any of them, zero b/c of noise levels. |
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avd706
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join:2003-02-06
Union, NJ
| said by patcat88 :said by kamm :Jesus, sweet ignorance. I bet you live in some fuckin remote place - visit NYC and you'll realize nobody has to go to anywhere, I can see 10+ wifi connection in my home and I live in nice brownstone area, on the corner of the best park in NYC, not in a multi-dwelling apt building area where literally hundreds of wifi APs are within connection range... ...outside of your shack WEP is fuckin dead, try to understand it. Use it in any urban area and you get your @ss owned within days. Union Square (NYC), each corner of the park has 250 APs visible, chance of connecting to any of them, zero b/c of noise levels. A directional antenna cuts through all of that. |
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH
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I can crack 64 bit WEP in 1 minute and 128 bit in 5 tops. And the hidden ssid and MAC filtering is a joke and adds all of another 60 seconds to the process.
One real problem with wireless security is that "many" people feel it's only a tool to keep people from stealing their internet. Once your security is defeated, they can capture all of your online activity...this can be a big identity theft issue, or worse.
WPA (2) is the way to go with a long, very random password that contains no actual words. And it should be changed every couple days IMO |
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