Re: Cost is already paid? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21246593 en Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:07:10 EDT Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:07:10 EDT Re: Cost is already paid? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21246593 Done_Posting : SMS uses the SS7 protocol (for anyone who cares). As far as not being able to triangulate it, I'm not so sure about that, but I'll defer to the experts.

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Basically though, the SMS provider is separate from the cellular provider and the SMS message is sent over a different protocol (that's why there is no way to geolocate an SMS message, but you can geolocate a cell phone call). The gateway network for SMS is a different network from that for PLMN.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21246153 Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:16:44 EDT Re: Cost is already paid? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21245904 wtansill :
said by marigolds See Profile :

There actually is a very significant bandwidth problem for SMS. That is why they have the 160 character limit. FEMA and DHS have been dealing with this technical limitation for the text alert system they have been working on.
Could you elaborate on this please?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21245904 Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:33:25 EDT Re: Cost is already paid? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21245657 patcat88 : AFAIK, a Verizon cellphone call is 3600 txt messages ((9600*60) bytes /160) per minute. Have fun getting drilled by the cellular bubba.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21245657 Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:51:11 EDT Re: Cost is already paid? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21245593 marigolds :
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The problem is that wireless companies don't seem to be in a state of competition on text messaging. When companies collaborate together to raise prices on a commodity, it's called collusion. OPEC would be illegal if they had a presence here.

The only way this would make sense and still be legal is if there was a technical reason limiting the number of text messages that could be handled by the companies.
There actually is a very significant bandwidth problem for SMS. That is why they have the 160 character limit. FEMA and DHS have been dealing with this technical limitation for the text alert system they have been working on.
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The only way this would make sense and still be legal is if there was a technical reason limiting the number of text messages that could be handled by the companies. In that case, there's a scarcity that higher prices would help get rid of. But, text messages are so small; if at any given moment, 10 million are using 100bps each, it's only 1Gbps to provide SMS for the entire country. But the companies make billions from it by not competing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21245316 Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:49:58 EDT Cost is already paid? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21244991 buzz_4_20 : The customer already pays to get the messages.
The sender pays to send the messages.

This is the same as net neutrality?

Everyone pays at their end of the wire, what's the problem?

I pay to get on the internet, companies pay to bandwidth to put their content on the internet. Where is the problem?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21244991 Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:50:52 EDT