Greg_Z
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join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL | reply to Ryan
Re: Help - how to downgrade this laptop to WinXP?
Majority of the so called "crap" is actually shortcuts. I just did a machine a month ago, and only had to remove 3 programs "Norton, HP PC Tools, and Sling media's viewing software". |
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Ryan
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join:2001-03-03
Attleboro, MA
| said by Greg_Z  :Majority of the so called "crap" is actually shortcuts. I just did a machine a month ago, and only had to remove 3 programs "Norton, HP PC Tools, and Sling media's viewing software". Thats not too bad then glad they've cut it down. I worked on one not too long ago and it was absolutely ridiculous the amount of software they had running on startup, all of it worthless. |
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Mele20
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join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
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said by Greg_Z :Majority of the so called "crap" is actually shortcuts. I just did a machine a month ago, and only had to remove 3 programs "Norton, HP PC Tools, and Sling media's viewing software". I just had several people tell me that Norton is NEVER installed on an HP computer when you get it. They say only the Installer is there and you just delete the installer. But you are saying Norton IS installed? I won't buy a computer that comes with Norton installed. I don't want one that has McAfee installed either but it is the lesser of the two evils. I was looking at HP computers and they all come with Norton and no option to get the computer with NO AV.
So, was Norton fully installed? I'll stop thinking about HP computers if I cannot order one with NO AV or, at the very least, with no Norton. I don't understand the OEMS. They insist on inflicting the TWO WORST AV on users plus the MOST DIFFICULT to fully remove. It is a crime.
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Greg_Z
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Springfield, IL | Norton is always fully installed, but as a 60 day trial. |
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Mele20
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join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
| said by Greg_Z :Norton is always fully installed, but as a 60 day trial. Hmm...the HP desktop I was eying had NIS installed for 15 months.
I've had these guys in GRC NGs insist Norton is not fully installed ...that is their experience ...yours is that it IS fully installed for a 60 day trial and when I configured this HP machine included was the NIS for 15 months that could not be declined.
Gee, I guess I will need to call HP and ask. I configured the machine on their home users site. I'm sure on their Business site a machine can be had with no AV included but I didn't see the machines I'd want on their Business site...not like Dell which includes the better consumer machines on their Small Business site.
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ChiTang
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join:2002-08-23
Alhambra, CA | OEM builder can include whatever they see fit to benefit themselves/customers.
Consumer always have to last decision, buy it or walk away.
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