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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20

reply to Lee GWB
Re: Acck I just tossed them...

If you can't understand that bill, then there's no hope.

What's wrong with it? I read right now it and understood EVERYTHING with out an issue.

You paid $104.99 for the service bundle. Looks like you did a service change in the middle of a billing period, which explains the credit back to your account, and then your taxes. You have a DVR, movie package, modem rental, and a monthly pro-rate.

How else do you want them to tell you this information?


SparkChaser
BURY BECK
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join:2000-06-06
Downingtown, PA
·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast

said by fiberguy See Profile :

If you can't understand that bill, then there's no hope.

I think the problem is the fees, charges, taxes. How many know what it's all about and how they get taxed under the radar?


Lee GWB
Yaco
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join:2001-10-13
Allendale, NJ
·Verizon Online DSL


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reply to fiberguy
Interpret this Since your a genius
Federal Subscriber Line Charge $6.29
Federal Universal Service Fee $0.72
Federal Universal Service Fee - LD $0.73

TV
State tax* $2.56
Video Franchise Fee* $4.26
CATV Universal Access Fund* $0.58

Looks like a lot of Bullshit too me
The rest I pretty much understood. Last bill was around 14 pages.. that my friend is a waste..... This was the online version.

Lee


en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME

Do you have standard 'voice' service ? Fees/Unfees for phone
Federal Subscriber Line Charge $6.29
Federal Universal Service Fee $0.72
Federal Universal Service Fee - LD $0.73

TV Service taxes
State tax* $2.56
Video Franchise Fee* $4.26
CATV Universal Access Fund* $0.58

Here's a 'snip' from my FORMER AT&T Landline bill:
[code]
3. Federal Subscriber Line Charge 4.39
4. Rate Surcharge 0.39
5. State Regulatory Fee 0.05
6. Federal Universal Service Fee 0.50
#
Total Surcharges and Fees 5.33
#
7. CA High Cost Fund Surcharge A 0.03
8. CA High Cost Fund B and CA AdvancedSvc Fund 0.13
9. California Teleconnect Fund Surcharge 0.02
10. Universal Lifeline Telephone Service Surcharge 0.31
11. CA Relay Service and Communications Devices Fund 0.05
12. 9-1-1 Emergency System 0.13
13. Federal 0.96
#
Total Government Fees and Taxes 1.63

Long Distance:
1. CA High Cost Fund A 0.01
2. CA High Cost Fund B and CA AdvancedSvc Fund 0.04
3. CA Relay Service & Comm. Devices Fund 0.02
4. CA State Emergency Telephone Users (911) Tax 0.04
5. CA Teleconnect Fund (0.08%) 0.01
6. CA Universal Lifeline Tel. Service Fund 0.10
#
Total Government Fees and Taxes 0.22
#
22. Carrier Cost Recovery Fee 1.49
23. Fed Universal Service Fund 1.59
24. CA State Regulatory Fee 0.02
#
Total Surcharges and other Fees 3.10

Total Government + AT&T BS Fees = $10.28/month
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Canada = Hollywood North


Lee GWB
Yaco
Premium
join:2001-10-13
Allendale, NJ
·Verizon Online DSL

Stinks doesn't it?? It should be
Bailout Tax =$30.00
Iraq War Tax= $8.00
Afghan war Tax =.90
Golden Parachute Tax= $.9.00

Sorry for the rant.. I am just tired of the BS..
Things will get worse before it gets better
Lee
--
"I Don't feel Tardy"

fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20


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reply to Lee GWB
What do "fees" and "simplified bills" have to do with one another?

The fees may be bullshit, I agree. However, a 16 page bill with a bunch of garbled items only repeated on another page, summarized on yet another page only to be grouped up in serviced on one page to be totaled up on one page is not easy to read.

The format that was presented was simplified.. if they are charging it, it has to be on there.

For the bill, I see nothing wrong.

Tell me if I'm wrong, but the "topic" of this article was a simplified, less confusing bill.. not "taxes and fees"... Pardon me if I'm wrong, but I was on topic.

But, to address the fees.. I think they're B.S. myself.

Taxes: They need to be itemized by law on the bill. CA is one of the worst.. I mean, Part A, Part B & C? Ridiculous. But, they do refer to 'laws' that were enacted allowing them to be collected. Taxes SHOULD be itemized no matter how many there are.

Fees: So long as EVERY customer is being charged the same "fee" for the "same service" then they should be part of the cost of the service itself. It's a tactic used to make their rates look better on ads vs. other providers. Last time I checked, part of your dial tone, for example, was set aside to cover the cost to provide it. At what point does that stop? .. .the fee. And they are BS.

Same with Pizza Delivery.. if there is a 50 cent fuel charge on top of the $1.50 delivery fee.. the simply raise the delivery fee to $2.00.

Airlines need to knock off the $40 fuel surcharge! Simply raise the price of the ticket.. I mean, we're already paying for fuel in the ticket. If it cost more for fuel these days, RAISE THEM! I mean, on one flight alone, there are about 30 different prices for the same seat.. It's all B.S. and it should be stopped. What make it all work, is when you're searching for ticket prices, it helps people chose one airline over the other.

Last time I checked, there was truth in lending, and other truth requirements. Fees that are common to all should be mandated to be included. I agree.

As for the bill, however, like I said, it's simply a simpler format. Qwest/U.S. West used to be ONE OF THE WORST for billing on phone alone. You could never figure out what you were paying for. They simplified their billing down to about 3 pages from 12, it was great. But, simplified billing still means they have to tell you WHAT you're paying if they want to charge it.

wildcat man

join:2007-11-03
Kansas City, MO
·Sprint Mobile Broa..

reply to en102
Federal Subscriber Line Charge going up?

Re: the Federal SLC (called the "SLICK" by those in the know in telecom) is 95%+ profit back to Verizon. As TWC's ads showed last year, the "sir charges" get you and, while small, represent in many cases (not all) pure profits back to VZ and at&t. This allows them to advertise a teaser rate and still make a very healthy profit.

The SLC will go up in the interconnection rules the FCC is looking at because Verizon needs to be "made whole" on changes in the long distance access rates (which are paid to between telecom companies and are a true vestige of the 1980s). There has been far too little said about the "make us whole" provision that all incumbent telcos are making in light of other hands in the government and financial pots today.

However, raising the base rate to consumers and small businesses in this time is just going to make TWC's and Comcast's products more attractive. Truth in advertising should kick in and make VZ and at&t (and the cable companies) show the total monthly cost of service in all advertising.


Lee GWB
Yaco
Premium
join:2001-10-13
Allendale, NJ
reply to fiberguy
Re: Acck I just tossed them...

Agreed but this was from the WEBSITE. Cable bill/DTV bill was 2 pages tops with a lot of adverts for new movies coming soon.
Cheers
Lee


bender
Bite my shiny metal ass
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Evanston, IL
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reply to Lee GWB
all of those are imposed by local, state, and federal government. don't blame the teleco or cable companies for it.


Lee GWB
Yaco
Premium
join:2001-10-13
Allendale, NJ
I don't think all of them are
Lee
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