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en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

Carriers want higher rates...

They're going to charge themselves right out of the POTS business.
Lets see...

Low End:
Skype (no phone number) - requires Internet
$3/month unlimited Canada/US Calling

Vonage: $25/month unlimited Canada/US Calling - requires Internet

TWC: $30/month - $40/month unlimited Canada/US calling
AT&T VoIP: $30-$40/month unlimited Canada/US calling - requires Uverse

AT&T POTS: $45/month ~= $58/month (after fees) unlimited Canada/US Calling

At almost $20/month more than the most expensive VoIP products, people will not stay on POTS. My last bill
had +$10 of BS fees/bonds/taxes/unfees on it.
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pandora
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said by en102:

They're going to charge themselves right out of the POTS business.
You are correct. I don't understand why the telephone companies want to increase the subscriber line charge. It is already way too high.

One of my landlines is now VOIP, the 2nd is headed in that direction. It'll get there faster if this subscriber line charge increase passes.
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S_engineer
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join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL

reply to en102

said by en102:

AT&T POTS: $45/month ~= $58/month (after fees) unlimited Canada/US Calling

My POTS in Chi-town is roughly $35 w/taxes. People will always use POTS for reliability reasons. One reason they're ready to throw POTS under the bus is because that POTS is the Bells biggest labor expense.

Don't think for one minute, if they got rid of POTS, that your VOIP fees wouldn't go through the roof.


JimThePCGuy
Formerly known as schja01.
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join:2000-04-27
Morton Grove, IL

reply to en102
My gut feeling is there are boat loads of people that don't want nor need UNLIMITED anything and they'll happily pay way less than your numbers for POTs service.



KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK

reply to en102
AH... but you see they will charge these fees to the VOIP operators to complete connections to their customers. :/


AstroBoy

join:2008-08-08
Parkville, MD

reply to en102
Magic Jack: $20/year unlimited Canada/US Calling - requires Internet, computer and open USB port.



sivran
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reply to en102
Or, for people who don't need or want long distance:

AT&T Unlimited Local: $10 +$12 taxes/fees etc = $22/mo.
And in my area, that amounts to: 100% uptime that does not rely on your internet connection, nor use up precious upstream bandwidth.

It's a steal. At this kind of price and reliability, I'll never ditch my landline. People ditching their landlines for cells or voip are either lucky enough to have ISPs and cells as reliable as my landline, or are shortsighted.
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ross

join:2000-08-16

said by sivran:

Or, for people who don't need or want long distance:

AT&T Unlimited Local: $10 +$12 taxes/fees etc = $22/mo.
And in my area, that amounts to: 100% uptime that does not rely on your internet connection, nor use up precious upstream bandwidth.

It's a steal. At this kind of price and reliability, I'll never ditch my landline. People ditching their landlines for cells or voip are either lucky enough to have ISPs and cells as reliable as my landline, or are shortsighted.
Unless they, apparently unlike you, read the new AT&T Residential Service Agreement, and objected to the terms of service.

It's tough to be forced to choose between your civil rights and cheap, dependable POTS. Especially, if like me, you have to give up telephone numbers that you may have had for a long, long time. Fuck AT&T!

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