Carriers want higher rates... in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21270868 en Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:26:13 EDT Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:26:13 EDT Re: Carriers want higher rates... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21280362 ross :
said by sivran See Profile :

Or, for people who don't need or want long distance:

AT&T Unlimited Local: $10 +$12 taxes/fees etc = $22/mo.
And in my area, that amounts to: 100% uptime that does not rely on your internet connection, nor use up precious upstream bandwidth.

It's a steal. At this kind of price and reliability, I'll never ditch my landline. People ditching their landlines for cells or voip are either lucky enough to have ISPs and cells as reliable as my landline, or are shortsighted.
Unless they, apparently unlike you, read the new AT&T Residential Service Agreement, and objected to the terms of service.

It's tough to be forced to choose between your civil rights and cheap, dependable POTS. Especially, if like me, you have to give up telephone numbers that you may have had for a long, long time. Fuck AT&T!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21280362 Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:25:45 EDT Re: Carriers want higher rates... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21278170 sivran : Or, for people who don't need or want long distance:

AT&T Unlimited Local: $10 +$12 taxes/fees etc = $22/mo.
And in my area, that amounts to: 100% uptime that does not rely on your internet connection, nor use up precious upstream bandwidth.

It's a steal. At this kind of price and reliability, I'll never ditch my landline. People ditching their landlines for cells or voip are either lucky enough to have ISPs and cells as reliable as my landline, or are shortsighted.
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said by en102 See Profile :

AT&T POTS: $45/month ~= $58/month (after fees) unlimited Canada/US Calling

My POTS in Chi-town is roughly $35 w/taxes. People will always use POTS for reliability reasons. One reason they're ready to throw POTS under the bus is because that POTS is the Bells biggest labor expense.

Don't think for one minute, if they got rid of POTS, that your VOIP fees wouldn't go through the roof. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21271129 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:53:26 EDT Re: Carriers want higher rates... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21270945 pandora :
said by en102 See Profile :

They're going to charge themselves right out of the POTS business.
You are correct. I don't understand why the telephone companies want to increase the subscriber line charge. It is already way too high.

One of my landlines is now VOIP, the 2nd is headed in that direction. It'll get there faster if this subscriber line charge increase passes.
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Lets see...

Low End:
Skype (no phone number) - requires Internet
$3/month unlimited Canada/US Calling

Vonage: $25/month unlimited Canada/US Calling - requires Internet

TWC: $30/month - $40/month unlimited Canada/US calling
AT&T VoIP: $30-$40/month unlimited Canada/US calling - requires Uverse

AT&T POTS: $45/month ~= $58/month (after fees) unlimited Canada/US Calling

At almost $20/month more than the most expensive VoIP products, people will not stay on POTS. My last bill
had +$10 of BS fees/bonds/taxes/unfees on it.
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