Re: This should pass. in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21271384 en Sat, 05 Dec 2009 05:17:29 EDT Sat, 05 Dec 2009 05:17:29 EDT Re: This should pass. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21297294 anon : You are not comparing apples to apples when talking about POTS and VOIP. Just as apples and oranges have different prices - so do VOIP and POTS. For one POTS is run over copper (expensive metal - hence why it is being stolen lately), in addition POTS providers ILEC's or CLEC's are held to higher regulatory standards of service than VOIP providers - providing better service costs more!!! You get what you pay for so when the lower standard VOIP product experiences packet loss and your service declines - just keep in mind you wanted "cheaper"!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21297294 Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:20:23 EDT Re: This should pass. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21275611 nitzan : We do, and make a profit on it, too. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21275611 Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:54:23 EDT Re: This should pass. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21275264 joako :
said by nitzan See Profile :

If this passes, what it means is higher rates for POTS customers and lower rates for VoIP customers.

I'm all for it- there is no reason why a domestic call should cost more than a cent a minute wholesale.

This will just speed up the migration from POTS to VoIP. :)
Actually quite the opposite. The want to overhaul the "intercarrier compensation" system. All phone companies charge themselves fees to connect the calls between each other. Basically a peering arrangement between the telcos. If AT&T and Verizon get their way, Level3, Global Crossing, etc will pay more per minute to terminate calls. While most VoIP providers don't connect directly to the PSTN they do pay these larger carriers for that service, even the providers that do or the smaller CLECS... everyone is going to pay more.
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09:F9:11:02:9D:74:E3:5B:D8:41:56:C5:63:56:88:C0]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21275264 Thu, 16 Oct 2008 01:11:46 EDT Re: This should pass. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21272027 anon :
said by neko See Profile :

"Can you give me pay-as-you-go international calling to the UK at 0.009 cents per minute?"


Guess what? The answer, after some bullsh*t & nonsense from the CSR's, is a resounding NO!
Of course they said no. 0.009 cents is less than a penny. Why would (how could?) anyone sell any kind of voice service with PSTN termination for less than $0.01 a minute?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21272027 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:24:11 EDT Re: This should pass. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21271850 neko : I still can't believe the savings I am making going VOIP. My average monthly 'phone bill is around $5 a month. I get flyers from Cogeco, Rogers, Telus, et al; but when I call in, I simply ask them:


"Can you give me pay-as-you-go international calling to the UK at 0.009 cents per minute?"


Guess what? The answer, after some bullsh*t & nonsense from the CSR's, is a resounding NO!

Future-Nine FTW: Cheap Calls To The UK

I rest my case...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21271850 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:52:53 EDT Re: This should pass. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21271384 jimbo48 : All well and good in theory; that is, UNLESS you can't get decent services to carry VOIP. VOIP requires connection to a reliable internet service,thus you pay for either a substandard DSL and then listen to your VOIP connection stutter because you can't use your DSL AND VOIP at the same time because the DSL line sucks hind tit! There are those fortunate locales where real competition is is in place where you can get something besides crappy DSL but then you have yet another set of hands rummaging through your wallet for even more share of the remaining dollars.
At least POTS line is there when you need it or use it, doesn't stutter or require a reboot of the router and/or ISP reconnect. The FCC needs a major enema to clear its Shit for brains management's head and realize that their edicts are just more screw jobs for the consumer.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21271384 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:29:59 EDT This should pass. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21270991 nitzan : If this passes, what it means is higher rates for POTS customers and lower rates for VoIP customers.

I'm all for it- there is no reason why a domestic call should cost more than a cent a minute wholesale.

This will just speed up the migration from POTS to VoIP. :)
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