Re: Andrew Cuomo needs to create the appearance of a problem... in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21275029 en Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:19:19 EDT Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:19:19 EDT Re: ... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21275976 cdru :
said by Doctor Four See Profile :

said by ftthz See Profile :

So someone was paid to find those images??? Sounds like a disturbing job.
I doubt a person was involved, except maybe to program an automated bot to know what to search for.
In one of the past articles there as a link to a press release (that's no longer posted) that stated "The Attorney General’s investigation reviewed millions of pictures over several months, uncovering 88 different Newsgroups that contained a total of 11,390 sexually lewd photos featuring prepubescent children". Yes they paid someone (or some people) money to surf the download and look at millions of pictures of porn. They likely used a bot or some other automation software for the actual downloading, they still apparently reviewed them in person.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21275976 Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:29:29 EDT Re: Andrew Cuomo needs to create the appearance of a problem... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21275374 funchords : Since my "panties" aren't "in a wad" about anything, I think you have misinterpreted something. SilverSurfer has not said anything that I disagree with.
said by major marco See Profile :

That may be so, but I've noticed that you have a nasty little habit of speaking in glittering generalities no matter what your opinion is on this site for any given topic.
For example?
said by major marco See Profile :

Someone corrected you so don't get your panties in a wad over it.
People correct me every day, and I have invited and embraced that and I thank them for it.

In this case, I don't see any glaring corrections. In fact, SilverSurfer took what may be seen as a generality of porn and clarified that it was distinct from child porn. I'm perfectly okay with that, since I meant that from the beginning.

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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21275374 Thu, 16 Oct 2008 01:50:14 EDT Re: Andrew Cuomo needs to create the appearance of a problem... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21275029 major marco :
said by funchords See Profile :

My complaint about MediaDefender and the (adult) porn industry is that they inject fake files and search results into the P2P networks to lure users to their sites -- users, who are not necessarily adults. Giving ones porn ad for "fetishsite.com" the same title as the search terms someone just used, such as "building implosions", is probably not speech protected by the first amendment.
That may be so, but I've noticed that you have a nasty little habit of speaking in glittering generalities no matter what your opinion is on this site for any given topic. Someone corrected you so don't get your panties in a wad over it.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21275029 Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:06:48 EDT Re: Andrew Cuomo needs to create the appearance of a problem... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21274559 funchords :
said by funchords See Profile :

2. Is paid by the porn industry to plant fake files on P2P networks that, when viewed, drive the viewer to the porn-operators site
said by SilverSurfer See Profile :

When discussing the "war" waged by Opportunist NYAG Cuomo, let's be more specific when tossing around the general term "porn." We're talking about purveyors of child pornography here.
Agreed. I don't think there's an advertising budget within any child pornography industry, but thanks for clarifying that just in case someone wasn't sure.

said by SilverSurfer See Profile :

Adult porn is still legal and is protected by the 1st Amendment.
My complaint about MediaDefender and the (adult) porn industry is that they inject fake files and search results into the P2P networks to lure users to their sites -- users, who are not necessarily adults. Giving ones porn ad for "fetishsite.com" the same title as the search terms someone just used, such as "building implosions", is probably not speech protected by the first amendment.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21274559 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:34:43 EDT Re: ... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21272830 james :
said by Ebolla See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by ftthz See Profile :

So someone was paid to find those images??? Sounds like a disturbing job.
And even if the % of child porn was low(.0003% of 3.7 billion), it still amounts to over 11,000 images. Who would want a job to check those out - ugh!!
a pedophile?
That's a big risk, but people in those positions are put through some pretty tough psych evaluations, and their private lives are subject to much more scrutiny than Joe Blow.

The "investigators" I'd be worried about are the ones who aren't acting on behalf of any agency. Private citizens who "stumble across child porn" and report it are probably surfing on some legaly questionable sites.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21272830 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:59:15 EDT Re: ... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21272394 Ebolla :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by ftthz See Profile :

So someone was paid to find those images??? Sounds like a disturbing job.
And even if the % of child porn was low(.0003% of 3.7 billion), it still amounts to over 11,000 images. Who would want a job to check those out - ugh!!
a pedophile?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21272394 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:35:26 EDT Re: Andrew Cuomo needs to create the appearance of a problem... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21272388 SilverSurfer :
said by funchords See Profile :

2. Is paid by the porn industry to plant fake files on P2P networks that, when viewed, drive the viewer to the porn-operators site
When discussing the "war" waged by Opportunist NYAG Cuomo, let's be more specific when tossing around the general term "porn." We're talking about purveyors of child pornography here. Adult porn is still legal and is protected by the 1st Amendment.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21272388 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:34:24 EDT Re: Andrew Cuomo needs to create the appearance of a problem... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21271639 pabster : Agreed. Cuomo's a fool and MediaDefender a disgrace.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21271639 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:17:04 EDT Re: ... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21271536 TKJunkMail :
said by ftthz See Profile :

So someone was paid to find those images??? Sounds like a disturbing job.
And even if the % of child porn was low(.0003% of 3.7 billion), it still amounts to over 11,000 images. Who would want a job to check those out - ugh!!
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said by ftthz See Profile :

So someone was paid to find those images??? Sounds like a disturbing job.
I doubt a person was involved, except maybe to program an
automated bot to know what to search for.

And that bot was most likely one of Giganews' own, not the ones that MediaDefender use. If it had been the latter, chances are that Giganews would have reported a much higher percentage of CP posts on Usenet, given how inaccurate such tools that are used by the anti-piracy companies are.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21271527 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:55:25 EDT Andrew Cuomo needs to create the appearance of a problem... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21271489 funchords : Speaking of disturbing jobs ...

New York state Attorney General Andrew Cuomo planned to use MediaDefender to collect child-porn evidence on P2P networks -- which is a rather questionable decision given that MediaDefender:

1. Has a history of interfering and disrupting online activity, including people and content that is completely legal and cleared to share

2. Is paid by the porn industry to plant fake files on P2P networks that, when viewed, drive the viewer to the porn-operators site

3. Lacks sufficient intrusion protection (they suffered a huge break in about a year ago)

4. Was preparing an entrapment website (MiVii).

Yeah, Andy's a good cop. :uhh:
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21271489 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:50:33 EDT ... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21271339 ftthz : So someone was paid to find those images??? Sounds like a disturbing job.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21271339 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:22:52 EDT