http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Judicial-Parasites-21280230 en Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:31:46 EDT Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:31:46 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Judicial-Parasites-21281840 said by RARPSL:

The problem is not the attempt to avoid paying a EFT but paying an UNFAIR EFT. How is this unfair?

If the contract states than an ETF is going to be charged, then no one should be surprised when an ETF is charged. If someone thinks it is unfair then they should not agree to such contracts.

While I do agree with you that a pro-rated ETF would be more fair to the consumer, no such ETF was mentioned in this contract, so it would be wrong for any judge to simply impose such a regime upon Qwest simply because a group of customers didn't think before signing such a contract.
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There, fixed it for ya. So in other words, contracts mean nothing?
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"At the moment of conception."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Judicial-Parasites-21281834 Fri, 17 Oct 2008 06:44:40 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Judicial-Parasites-21281422 said by pnh102:

So once again, the Corporations who voluntarily agreed to provide services by signing contracts that bind them want to weasel out of their commitment. There, fixed it for ya.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Judicial-Parasites-21281422 Fri, 17 Oct 2008 01:38:44 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Judicial-Parasites-21281037 said by pnh102:

So once again, people who voluntarily agreed to pay ETFs by signing contracts that bound them to do so want to weasel out of their commitment.
The problem is not the attempt to avoid paying a EFT but paying an UNFAIR EFT. If I am given a 2-year contract with a $10/month discount then the FAIR EFT is $240 which is reduced by $10/month. IOW: I should ONLY be charged an EFT fee that is based on how many months early I want to cancel and what discount a month I was getting. Cancel after 13 months of service and owe an EFT of $110. An even better/fairer alternative is to base the EFT on the number of months of delivered Service (which would make the EFT after 13 months $130). If I can sign up at the full rate and cancel at any time with no cancellation penalty then the latter method is the fairest to both sides (ie: It voids the commitment and converts the monthly fee to the pay-as-you-go monthly fee).

What justification does the company have for charging more than the recovery of the under-payments?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Judicial-Parasites-21281037 Thu, 16 Oct 2008 23:24:21 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Judicial-Parasites-21280341 said by FenixSucks:

What is Qwest's ETF for DSL? It says "if you cancel before end of your contract ETF may apply" but they don't tell you the value. If that's what the contract says then it should come to no surprise to any customer who accepts that an ETF may be applied.

As long as the contract states very clearly that an ETF may apply, there should be no legal problem.
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"At the moment of conception."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Judicial-Parasites-21280230 Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:05:57 EDT