rv65
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join:2008-08-02
San Diego, CA | reply to jmr50
Re: Idiots...
Most CableCard TV's don't have a USB port so they can't use the tuning resolver. Plus the TV manufacturer would have to make a firmware update. The tuning resolver is free and is much smaller than a cable box. |
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wierdo
join:2001-02-16
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said by jmr50  :it still does nothing for the millions of CableCard-enabled TVs out there. There actually are very few cablecard enabled TVs being used with cards, sadly. The vast majority of them that aren't in MSO owned boxes are in TiVos, by something like a 10 to 1 margin.
That doesn't mean I disagree with your point or think that the tuning resolver is a real solution.
And as a side note, a large part of the reason for that low penetration is the cable companies themselves, leaving out SDV entirely. They misinform customers, many require a truck roll to have them installed, and they have such poor training on them that even when they send out an employee to do the install, it still often either doesn't work or takes hours for them to make it work.
It's really quite ridiculous.
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jmr50
join:2000-05-14
Chantilly, VA
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What about my TV? I paid for it, and it has big digital cable ready sticker on it, and now it can't receive a third of the HD channels. Consumers have paid thousands of dollars for equipment which now can't be used as advertised (i.e., without a set-top box). The law which required separable security which didn't require it for just a few channels, it required it for all linear channels. I'm not sure why the law requires it for HDNet but doesn't require it for SciFiHD... and I don't care what they do to make TiVo users happy, it still does nothing for the millions of CableCard-enabled TVs out there. |
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wierdo
join:2001-02-16
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said by fiberguy :The only thing I said I was upset about the FCC is that they fined TWC 'for not notifying the local Franchise Authority'.. that to me doesn't sit right. The local F/A should be doing the fining, not the FCC. That's almost like a state trooper writing a speeding ticket on a city street and keeping the ticket money. One thing I'm not is a federalist. I do not believe in Federal government getting involved in the business of the states. I personally feel the FCC needs to get back to dealing with interstate stuff and allocation of frequency and that's it. I don't think they should be involved to the level they are. So, that's what drives about 50% of my anger towards the FCC. Besides, on an unrelated 'rant'.. the FCC has been a gateway to doling out favors to corporations and the bigwigs that run them at the expense of the states and the people where ultimately the top guys get rich and, most importantly, powerful. But anyway.. another topic for another time. Personally, I'm what I'd call a semi-federalist. There are times when federal intervention is necessary, and there are times when it's useless.
Regardless, I think it's perfectly proper for the FCC to regulate cable companies, especially those that own franchises in several states. That doesn't mean I like how the FCC is being run in general lately. Amongst other things when it comes to big business, they are quite capricious. They treat the cable companies quite differently from the satellite companies, for example, even though the same laws (in general) apply to both.
A good example is this deal of them getting all up in Cox and TWC's shit over the CableCARD thing while letting the satellite companies completely ignore the telecom act's separable security requirement. (they have it, but they won't activate third party boxes)
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mech1164
I'Ll Be Back
join:2001-11-19
Lodi, NJ
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said by fiberguy :Putting a dish in a bucket of cement, or attaching it to a mounting pod, commonly sold for satellite positioning, is not "attaching" anything to the sides or tops of the units. If that person who did just put a dish in a bucket of quickcrete was told to take it down or lose their home, the complex is 100% in violation of FEDERAL law. He'd be protected from eviction on that point alone. The apartment complex could easily be found guilty of violating the rights of the tenants as well if he wanted to press forward - and believe me, it's not hard. Under no certain terms will I try to encourage or press you to fight for what's right - that's your choice, but I WILL strongly disagree with you that you're with out options because you're not. So I guess I disagree with you on the "I wish it was that easy for us" comment.. What you guys should all do, if I were living there, is file a joint complaint with the Feds regarding the complex violating the law and see what happens. But that's me. Thing is you are taking it as though we have some common place to place that bucket. We don't It's all owned buy the apt owners. Fed or not we are screwed. It's hard to tell you without a pic. Don't have a camera at the moment. People here have tried many times all with the same result. As far as filing a complaint that's a no go to. Most people here barely know who's next to them. Some I don't want to know.(They are fairly frequented by the local police if you get my meaning)
Put it to you this way. I talk to the salesperson for the complex. Nice lady she is. She asked me about what could be done to improve the apts so that they sell better. She said that there were alot of vacancies lately and people were not as interested in the apts. Oh I told her. Maybe get some proper plumbing, allowing a dishwasher would be nice or a stackable washer dryer along with what we have been talking. She told me the Realty manager thought that some new siding and paint might do. As you can see we have long way to go before the rest of it  |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
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The only thing I said I was upset about the FCC is that they fined TWC 'for not notifying the local Franchise Authority'.. that to me doesn't sit right. The local F/A should be doing the fining, not the FCC. That's almost like a state trooper writing a speeding ticket on a city street and keeping the ticket money.
One thing I'm not is a federalist. I do not believe in Federal government getting involved in the business of the states. I personally feel the FCC needs to get back to dealing with interstate stuff and allocation of frequency and that's it. I don't think they should be involved to the level they are. So, that's what drives about 50% of my anger towards the FCC. Besides, on an unrelated 'rant'.. the FCC has been a gateway to doling out favors to corporations and the bigwigs that run them at the expense of the states and the people where ultimately the top guys get rich and, most importantly, powerful. But anyway.. another topic for another time. |
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We in our early geek stages should have been more aggressive, and now we should be too.
It's ridiculous how much power is given to the phone company and cable networks, not to mention money.
Whats the real difference from hiring a host to having Cox communications or anyone else host your account?
They have access to all of your scripts, people that work for them can plug in a flash drive and steal all of your programming, and there doesn't seem to be an end to all of this.
A beginning would be to script programs that only upload the visual contents and leave the controls on the person's PC.
Another good idea would be to create a program that checks out scripting to insure it doesn't round robin or steal from the person using the script. |
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wierdo
join:2001-02-16
Tulsa, OK
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| reply to fiberguy
said by fiberguy :What are you talking about? Who EVER said I gave a free pass to anyone in regards to following laws? If you'd get off the heels of my boots and actually read my posts for once, you'd see that just a few hours ago I damned the cable company, TWC, for not properly notifying their customers. Now you're simply making things up, wierdo. You were one of the first to complain about the FCC's enforcement action, unless I'm misremembering.
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swintec
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join:2003-12-19
Alfred, ME | reply to COXNVA customer
In our market, TWs SDV channels are all listed as so on the channel line ups, quite clearly, on there website.
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DataRiker
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3 edits | reply to fiberguy
said by fiberguy :said by Dogfather :What else would you expect from the resident cable industry spokeshole? Watch your mouth. Maybe I should, for fun, launch a law suit against BBR for them allowing you to personally insult and attack me all while they don't enforce their own TOS rules property, yet selectively when it makes their position better. But anyway, coming back to reality even thought you're not there.. I'm not going to speak to a child who is always here on a rant throwing a temper tantrum. Did someone take away your tinker toys & stomp them into little pieces today Mr. Communist? This is the 3rd time I have seen you crying about BBR's TOS. Instead of launching a lawsuit against BBR, which is not funny at all, why don't you move to another site?
Oh, and for the love of god are all your paragraphs one sentence? |
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COXNVA customer
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so what you are saying is that me the consumer who called my cable company to ask if they supported tivo hd, they responded yes so spent $300 on a new tivo, as it conforms with fcc regs that allow me to remove my programs from the dvr, something that most cable company owned boxes make increasingly difficult to do. so when the company knowingly lies to me the consumer they need to be reprimanded, especially when asked specific questions, such as what channels are SDV? Is USAHD SDV? and the answers are either a resounding yes, which is a lie, or I don't know anything about SDV.. So as far a hurting business the company is doing that itself by alienating a percent of their population.
So the consumer isn't the idiot the company is... |
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Zen6
@rr.com | reply to bufbandit
Are we talking big mac or the ig and nasty? |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| reply to wierdo
Re: Idiots...
What are you talking about? Who EVER said I gave a free pass to anyone in regards to following laws? If you'd get off the heels of my boots and actually read my posts for once, you'd see that just a few hours ago I damned the cable company, TWC, for not properly notifying their customers.
Now you're simply making things up, wierdo. |
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wierdo
join:2001-02-16
Tulsa, OK
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said by fiberguy :If that person who did just put a dish in a bucket of quickcrete was told to take it down or lose their home, the complex is 100% in violation of FEDERAL law. He'd be protected from eviction on that point alone. The apartment complex could easily be found guilty of violating the rights of the tenants as well if he wanted to press forward - and believe me, it's not hard. Hmm..so federal law and its implementing FCC regulations are good when applied to apartment complexes, but not when applied to cable companies? Could you be a bit less consistent?
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wierdo
join:2001-02-16
Tulsa, OK
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said by fiberguy :Also, the box you're talking about now is not even a cable card box which isn't a valid comparison to the conversation. If you're going to start throwing out daggers and bring up comparisons, can you at least bring up some that are valid? The MAIN topic is about cable card Tivo services that are being knocked off. This sub thread is about a Tivo, on topic, and one year of a service with a cable provider. I'm talking about CableCARD boxes. What part of that don't you get. Right now, a refurb is available for $179.99. They are sometimes available for $99.99. TiVo always has refurbs available, the only question is at what price they feel like selling it. Brand new, they are available for as low as $199.99, depending on the retailer. That's certainly a valid comparison. It doesn't depend on an eBay deal or anything else, just ordering online.
Looking at the entirety of this thread, I fail to see where anybody but you mentioned 1 year, perhaps you can point me to the specific post. (I have been known to have situational blindness on occasion)
A THD is every bit as valid a comparison as an S3. They're essentially the same box. I know, I have both. I bought an S3 about 19 months ago when my apartment complex switched from DirecTV (which I was using a DirecTiVo with) to cable. I tried the Cox box for a month. It dropped too many recordings and incessantly recorded repeats even when told not to, so I bought something better (for $650).
Around Christmas, when Circuit City had the THD on sale for $249.99, I picked up one of those for the bedroom. They both use CableCARDs. I have no idea where you got the idea I wasn't talking about CableCARD-using TiVos. You seem to have made that up.
That's one of the nice things about not buying the cable company's box. Competition between retailers gets the consumer a lower price on the hardware. If only replay hadn't been run out of business, TiVo might have found the r&d dollars to further reduce the manufacturing cost of their box.
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Dogfather
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2 edits | reply to swintec
It is irrelevant if it's a necessary utility. Companies are prohibited from engaging in certain anticompetitive behaviors and in this case the FCC stated the rules well in advance and TWC violated them. Microsoft Windows isn't a utility either, but that doesn't mean Microsoft was allowed to do anything in the marketplace they wanted to the detriment of competitors and consumers.
Take it or leave it are not competitive forces no matter how much the corporate kissasses and coaxial fanboys think they are. |
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cableguy619
join:2003-06-24
Chula Vista, CA
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My thing is Telo Tv should comply, btu they cant because of withced digital which they do. Kinda sucks when the government runs your technology....
But heck they will give 700 Billion out to the Insurance and Mortgage companies...errrr
Gov has to much sway in our technology..
Of course we can go the Chinese model all about business 1st.. |
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swintec
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said by Dogfather : want them you have to pay $20 instead of $10. Umm...Wanting something, means you also agree with the price, or well, you wouldnt pay it. Judging by your posts here, you need to realize that cable service is not a necessary utility, that MUST be had.
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| reply to mech1164
Putting a dish in a bucket of cement, or attaching it to a mounting pod, commonly sold for satellite positioning, is not "attaching" anything to the sides or tops of the units.
If that person who did just put a dish in a bucket of quickcrete was told to take it down or lose their home, the complex is 100% in violation of FEDERAL law. He'd be protected from eviction on that point alone. The apartment complex could easily be found guilty of violating the rights of the tenants as well if he wanted to press forward - and believe me, it's not hard.
Under no certain terms will I try to encourage or press you to fight for what's right - that's your choice, but I WILL strongly disagree with you that you're with out options because you're not. So I guess I disagree with you on the "I wish it was that easy for us" comment..
What you guys should all do, if I were living there, is file a joint complaint with the Feds regarding the complex violating the law and see what happens. But that's me. |
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