Topic 'Re: Of Course Boxes will Still Be Around' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Of-Course-Boxes-will-Still-Be-Around-21277052 en Sat, 25 May 2013 11:35:47 EDT Sat, 25 May 2013 11:35:47 EDT Re: Of Course Boxes will Still Be Around http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Of-Course-Boxes-will-Still-Be-Around-21282646 said by kfsutops:

said by Rob:

The sad part is when they stop using boxes, because cable cards or a newer technology allows for delivery of digital service without the need for the box, then they will have a revenue stream - and we can all expect they will not lower our bills.
Of course they will not lower bills.
At least we agree on something! :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Of-Course-Boxes-will-Still-Be-Around-21282646 Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:48:37 EDT Re: Of Course Boxes will Still Be Around http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Of-Course-Boxes-will-Still-Be-Around-21282642 said by Rob:

The sad part is when they stop using boxes, because cable cards or a newer technology allows for delivery of digital service without the need for the box, then they will have a revenue stream - and we can all expect they will not lower our bills.
Of course they will not lower bills.
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Come on now. You know better than to spout that out.

I pay for rental. Then I pay a month charge for DVR service? What is that service for? For Tivo's and Realplay TV it was/is for the downloading/updating of the guide.

Now. Why should I have to pay for the same guide on a DVR box but not on a non DVR box? This is the one thing Tivo has had a positive impact on, people paying for a stupid guide that they already received for free.
You're obviously misunderstanding me. I'm not saying what they are doing is right, all I am saying is that the boxes are NOT revenue streams for them. If they break even, that's a good day.

There is so much cost added for these boxes, from the purchase price, to paying techs, agents, and not to mention the boxes that end up on ebay. The overhead for those boxes are atrocious.

The sad part is when they stop using boxes, because cable cards or a newer technology allows for delivery of digital service without the need for the box, then they will have a revenue stream - and we can all expect they will not lower our bills. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Of-Course-Boxes-will-Still-Be-Around-21282378 Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:51:21 EDT Re: Of Course Boxes will Still Be Around http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Of-Course-Boxes-will-Still-Be-Around-21282336
I pay for rental. Then I pay a month charge for DVR service? What is that service for? For Tivo's and Realplay TV it was/is for the downloading/updating of the guide.

Now. Why should I have to pay for the same guide on a DVR box but not on a non DVR box? This is the one thing Tivo has had a positive impact on, people paying for a stupid guide that they already received for free.
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So you are saying that these charges are not an important revenue stream?

Come on you know better than that...

As for the it basically being a break even product as someone suggest. Really? Do you really believe that too? I am sure that Brighthouse is not making any money on the DVR box that my parents have had for over four years now.
They are not an important revenue stream. They end costing the company more money than anything.

I see the records myself - the cost to the MSO and the overhead. It's not a pretty sight.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Of-Course-Boxes-will-Still-Be-Around-21282215 Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:13:15 EDT Re: Of Course Boxes will Still Be Around http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Of-Course-Boxes-will-Still-Be-Around-21282180
Come on you know better than that...

As for the it basically being a break even product as someone suggest. Really? Do you really believe that too? I am sure that Brighthouse is not making any money on the DVR box that my parents have had for over four years now.
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The cable companies will never get rid of the boxes. I pay close to $20 per month for an HD DVR. Why would the get rid of that revenue stream?
Revenue stream? ha.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Of-Course-Boxes-will-Still-Be-Around-21277532 Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:04:35 EDT Re: Of Course Boxes will Still Be Around http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Of-Course-Boxes-will-Still-Be-Around-21277496 said by kfsutops:

The cable companies will never get rid of the boxes. I pay close to $20 per month for an HD DVR. Why would the get rid of that revenue stream?
They will just start makeing you pay cable card, outlet fees, mirring fees, guide data fees, and more.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Of-Course-Boxes-will-Still-Be-Around-21277496 Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:58:55 EDT Re: Of Course Boxes will Still Be Around http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Of-Course-Boxes-will-Still-Be-Around-21277316 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Of-Course-Boxes-will-Still-Be-Around-21277316 Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:28:23 EDT Re: Of Course Boxes will Still Be Around http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Of-Course-Boxes-will-Still-Be-Around-21277088 said by kfsutops:

The cable companies will never get rid of the boxes. I pay close to $20 per month for an HD DVR. Why would the get rid of that revenue stream?
The revenue stream from leasing boxes is more or less recouping the cost of maintaining them, purchaseing them to lease and processing them.
The real revenue stream is Impulse PPV and added value to the product such as VOD, the interactive guide, etc.

So cablecards arent really going away. A smarter way to use them is all that was needed.

DVRs incorporated into TVs is also coming up next. However, If youve ever purchased a TV/VCR combo back in the day and had the VCR crap out its the same thing. Just a lot more expensive.

Its a neat product, has a cooler interface and is convenient. We have one in our offic.

But it IS a lot of money to spend just to avoid having a cable box.. especially with high end set ups were the cable box is sitting right with the home theater system taking up just as much room as all the other AV equipment.
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