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piral
@optonline.net
| Any Covad Gurus in the house What is Covads relations relative to Earthlink, Speakeasy, if not even ATT ?
ATT SDSL or DSL product lineage on their *out* of home regions ? Was working on a ATT SDSL (out of region) line today and the network was pretty damm amazing ! Dunno if Covad just rents their POP to them and then everything is backhauled on ATT side ?
We're talking like 5 hops whereas (of of curiousity) we remoted into a network that had Covad business DSL and it was 14 hops and more latent as well... | |
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Meteor Dive
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join:2001-08-31
Silver Spring, MD
 ·Covad Communications
| Re: Any Covad Gurus in the house I wouldn't call myself a complete guru, but I can try answer maybe a few things. In rough nutshell, Covad provisions xDSL services to those companies. They've all partnered up to do so. And as of late, they've allowed the use of their networks too in provisioning DSLs to customers.
(Someone can correct me if I'm wrong as I've been out of the blue since Covad extended their agreement with ATT back in 2003)
That average hop it takes to get around the US servers varies between 8-14 hops on many residential based services that covad provides, few business tiers included. This is normal.
The Covad Business DSL that you mentioned in your comment, what type was it? There's a varying degree of available business services from covad (like ADSL, SDSL, e.t.c) Covad tends to treats their symmetrical services with a more robust approach, especially with their target time repairs.
With that said, we could possibly assume the product you tested was top graded. | |
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piral
@gablesolutions.com
| We was testing on a ATT SDSL circuit as opposed to the adsl covad variant...
However, just short of SLA, etc.....and maybe some slight QOS packet differntiation, the route on the *covad provisioned* ATT SDSL circuit wad clearly only 5 hops (just repeated testing ) whereas on the Covad provisioned circuit, it was more...different routes as well. Same *region/city/neighborhood,locality*
Of course, if I was able to do the same test on either a Covad SDSL circuit or a ATT ADSL circuit in the same region, it would be more clear... | |
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CylonRed
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join:2000-07-06
Bloom County | Re: Any Covad Gurus in the house My Covad provisioned DSL (with Speakeasy) and the Covad hop will to go the POP that SE sends me to. May not be the place that AT&T has for a POP on their lines. | |
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Meteor Dive
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join:2001-08-31
Silver Spring, MD
·Covad Communications
| said by piral :
Of course, if I was able to do the same test on either a Covad SDSL circuit or a ATT ADSL circuit in the same region, it would be more clear...
Right. This variability makes it rough to make any good comparisons. Even more so with the scheme CylonRed  mentioned.
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piral
@qwest.net | Another thing to note...I thought Covad just backhauled traffic through L3 primarily. In testing, looks like they have XO in their routing as well | |
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