billpeck
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Poway, CA
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Re: smtp.gmail server CHANGES From & Reply headers!
I stumbled upon remmian's post so tested one of my custom addresses and was shocked to find the same problem! I had only changed one non-dslx mail address so I changed the server back and fixed the problem. Thanks to remmian for pointing this out and thanks to dslx gm for leaving the outgoing dslx mail server up. I fully agree with remmian that I DO NOT want my dslx address going out on my other mail addresses. I have those addresses for various purposes and don't need them screwed up like that.
BTW, is google spying on us now?? |
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remmian
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| billpeck: I only wish I'd realized it sooner.
As for Google spying... I spent 5 years researching online privacy full time, (1995-2000), and as most anyone now knows, email is not considered private by any ISP, nor is there any expectation of privacy. This is commonly stated in the terms of service. It is often said you should not say anything in email that you wouldn't want published in a newspaper or shared on TV.
Additionally, Google is a huge company based around marketing, and marketing means profiling. In particular, Google is partnered with DoubleClick, the FIRST KING of poor privacy practices and aggressive profiling. The Google terms of service says:
"At Google we recognize that privacy is important. This Privacy Policy applies to all of the products, services and websites offered by Google Inc. or its subsidiaries or affiliated companies EXCEPT DoubleClick (DoubleClick Privacy Policy) and Postini (Postini Privacy Policy); collectively, Google’s “services”. "
In other words, whatever the Google Policy says it's only part of the picture and these other marketers' privacy policies are the rest of the picture... and being extremely familiar with DClick's history, forget about any notion of privacy. Their privacy policy basically states you don't have any privacy, couched in language intended to give the opposite impression. Whether or not this has any bearing on mail passing through Google servers, who knows, REGARDLESS of what the respective privacy policies say!
So while you might enjoy a small expectation of some modicum of privacy on a smaller, private mail server like DSLXs, (which is exactly why I LIKED DSLX!), for your own best interest I'd personally recommend that you assume NO expectation of privacy AT ALL with gmail or Google services. AFAIC all information provided them -- anything that passes through their servers -- is subject to multiple types of analysis from profiling-type software and possibly other filters looking for potentially harmful or illegal material that Google wants to protect itself against. (Don't forget, Google gives email addresses for free to the general public. That opens them up to a lot more risk than DSLX, and that also means more aggressive monitoring.)
I only wish I would have known that I could have kept the DSLX mail server all along.  I never wanted any of my personal information passed to, or through, Google. They are a good search engine. That's it AFAIC. |
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remmian
@dslextreme.com | PS Also meant to mention that all personal email should be encrypted, if you are concerned about privacy. |
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billpeck
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join:2008-10-12
Poway, CA | reply to remmian
Thanks for the info and recommendations. My question was more concerned with the marketing side than the e-mail privacy side. Seems everyone wants to "ad" me to death! Has anyone coined a good term for that yet? (ie targeted ads vs general spam) |
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Zak_D_H
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Salt Lake City, UT | Hi billpeck
adware? |
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dslx_gm
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Winnetka, CA
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said by billpeck  :Has anyone coined a good term for that yet? (ie targeted ads vs general spam) I think that is is commonly referred to as Gray Mail. Those would be things like emails from Expedia after you purchase a flight from them. Some people want and don't mind them while others don't. »www.ceas.cc/2007/papers/paper-79.pdf |
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billpeck
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join:2008-10-12
Poway, CA | How about "gsmack"? |
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