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Re: Weil-McLain Ultra series boilers

said by dennismurphy See Profile :

Absolutely. I have an electric HWH right now, and while I don't run out of hot water, we all know they're inefficient.
Actually, electric water heaters are near 99% efficiency. This is due to no flue line to exhaust burnt gasses outside. The cost of electricity is the kicker though. It takes a lot more KWH than MCF's to heat water the same.

To be frank, the W-M 68 Series is older technology, but it's damned reliable. It just keeps cranking out heat ...

I was curious if anyone installs used boilers. I don't even care about making any money on the cost of the boiler... Since I have a working boiler & HWH that are going to be taken out of service, I was wondering if there was a way to get them to a family that could use them - someone that might be cash-strapped and has a broken boiler, something of that nature.

I'll ask my contractor when I talk to him about this whole thing ... I've got to give him a call tomorrow anyway.

Thanks again - this is some good news!
We have installed one used cast boiler in the past, and that was for a good friend of mine. He and his friends moved the boiler into position close to the original, and we swapped the units out.

Biggest problem with moving an assembled boiler is of course the weight. Anything bigger than 30x30 is an absolute bastard to move. Thats why a lot of cast boilers come disassembled in sections. Much easier to move 6 80lb sections than one 480+ gutbuster.

If you have good access to removing the boiler, advertise it on craigslist for a nominal fee, say $100 for the boiler. I`m sure someone out there still has the old gravity / coal conversion boiler that is less than 70% efficient. We have a bid out now for an ultra, for a customer with a boiler from approx 1945, an old coal conversion with ceramic burner. Its a beast of a boiler lol

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My company installs 3-4 Ultra's a year. They are a very reliable unit, and because of the modulation rate, they are very efficient.
Well that's great to hear. That's the news I was hoping for ...

I agree with the above post about investigating a domestic hot water system at the same time. It is about 1500 more, but will replace your existing water heater with an approx 90% boiler heat source. Go with the larger tank, as it puts less strain on the boiler.
Absolutely. I have an electric HWH right now, and while I don't run out of hot water, we all know they're inefficient.

Costwise, any boiler install will start at 7k and go up from there. The boilers themselves go for 3k+, depending on btu value.
I'm more concerned about unit cost than installation cost, to be honest. I don't mind paying an honest price for an honest job, and I have a heating contractor that I trust implicitly.

edit-- your existing 15yr old boiler runs no risk of leaking, the cast exchanger can go for 30-40yrs easy.
To be frank, the W-M 68 Series is older technology, but it's damned reliable. It just keeps cranking out heat ...

I was curious if anyone installs used boilers. I don't even care about making any money on the cost of the boiler... Since I have a working boiler & HWH that are going to be taken out of service, I was wondering if there was a way to get them to a family that could use them - someone that might be cash-strapped and has a broken boiler, something of that nature.

I'll ask my contractor when I talk to him about this whole thing ... I've got to give him a call tomorrow anyway.

Thanks again - this is some good news!


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My company installs 3-4 Ultra's a year. They are a very reliable unit, and because of the modulation rate, they are very efficient.

Also, with the two-pipe system they use, the boiler does not use your indoor heated air to run. They are way quieter than a fan driven oil boiler. (you have to put your hand on the unit just to see if its running)

I agree with the above post about investigating a domestic hot water system at the same time. It is about 1500 more, but will replace your existing water heater with an approx 90% boiler heat source. Go with the larger tank, as it puts less strain on the boiler.

Costwise, any boiler install will start at 7k and go up from there. The boilers themselves go for 3k+, depending on btu value.

We have approx 15-20 units out there, that we service once a year (clean flamerods, and condensate traps), but otherwise we havent had any failures in the 6-7 years they've been available. They also offer a 10yr parts and lifetime heat exchanger warranty, as an additional purchase. 5yr parts and labor is standard, which is very good for a boiler.

good luck

-j

edit-- your existing 15yr old boiler runs no risk of leaking, the cast exchanger can go for 30-40yrs easy.
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