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Smile__
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Bye Bye Vonage?

I always wondered why Vonage hasn't caught on more in the US.. Great deal on service and easy to use... Oh well!!


TKJunkMail
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A business plan where they don't charge enough for the service to make a profit can only last so long before investors and/or lenders will no longer fund their failures. In the current economic environment, no one(except the government) is willing to invest in a company that looks like it will never make a profit.
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Smile__
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New Freedom, PA
That's understandable but I was talking about new add subscribers... As you just said service is a low cost...

Austinloop

join:2001-08-19
Austin, TX

DoRight1 said: "As you just said service is a low cost..."

I wonder how many people are taking advantage of google, etc., and researching the company before buying into their service and seeing what a precarious financial position that they are in, and lets not forget the SunRocket fiasco.

At least with the cable phone service, you have local technicians to assist in resolving problems with the service.
What do you have with Vonage?


supergirl

join:2007-03-20
Pensacola, FL
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reply to TKJunkMail
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

A business plan where they don't charge enough for the service to make a profit can only last so long before investors and/or lenders will no longer fund their failures. In the current economic environment, no one(except the government) is willing to invest in a company that looks like it will never make a profit.
The big boys waited then came out with better VOIP. And, cellphones hurt all landlines.
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anonchicken

@comcast.net

reply to Austinloop
I been using Vonage since 2003 and I can honestly tell you that I never had any problems with them. My cable internet is rock solid when it comes to uptime so that goes the same for Vonage.

It doesn't take much to keep a voip phone service up and running, you just need a reliable internet connection and a router.

I don't see how I could pay $40.00+/month on a phone service when I am paying $19.67. Its the same service as cables voip but cheaper.


phoneboy3

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reply to Smile__
Because the sheep....errr Americans believe what the big established corporations tell them.

They also believe their Gov't far too often but that's another thread.


CUBS_FAN
Next Year Again..

join:2005-04-28
Chicago, IL
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·Vonage

reply to anonchicken
I couldn't agree any more. If you have a solid connection your VOIP works like a charm. I have 100% confidence in their services.

Straight from my bill history:

May 29, 2008 Payment. Thank you ($37.11)

Jun 29, 2008 Payment. Thank you ($35.54)

Jul 29, 2008 Payment. Thank you ($35.33)

Aug 29, 2008 Payment. Thank you ($34.08)

Sep 29, 2008 Payment. Thank you ($43.06)


phoneboy3

@shawcable.net

reply to anonchicken
Well it's NOT the same service but if it works for you that's great. It never worked for me. I have a friend that loves it and doesn't know what he would do without it. So it doesn't work for everyone.

I am still rooting for Vonage because they help keep the telco landscape more competitive. So whether you like them or not they are probably helping to keep your competitors more price and conscious.


CUBS_FAN
Next Year Again..

join:2005-04-28
Chicago, IL
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·Vonage

said by phoneboy3 :

So whether you like them or not they are probably helping to keep your competitors more price and conscious.
Funny you said that because Comcast thinks I have AT&T when they keep throwing their Digital Voice ads at me. I agree with them that they may be cheaper than AT&T but its still not any cheaper than Vonage.


jgkolt
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join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
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the telco's dont like competing on price much and will do whatever they can to not compete on price.
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CylonRed
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join:2000-07-06
Bloom County

reply to Smile__
If a company can't make money on what it charges then I know lots of folks who will stay away from the same company.

I don't get sucked into buying something where one of 2 things will happen (if not both):

1) They fail if they can't get enough new business (kinda like Social Security)

2) They jack up prices suddenly.

Give me a service at a fair price where the company makes money from the onset rather than suck people in, then try and explain why they have to raise prices. With all of the folks in VOIP - they can't afford to make a profit but they can't stay alive long if they can't make money - a lose - lose proposition.

No way I would even think of trying VOIP in the next 3 years minimum. It might be sooner if I did not have kids but my POTS is far more stable then a VOIP connection and the ILEC is more stable than ANY VOIP provider that can be used over DSL.


tglea

join:2007-08-13
Mexico
·Vonage
·Cox HSI

reply to Smile__
said by Smile__ See Profile :

I always wondered why Vonage hasn't caught on more in the US.. Great deal on service and easy to use... Oh well!!
Because they marketed their service to liberally in my opinion. They told people it was so easy to use and worked just like their current service. For some it is easy, but most people that are using it probably don't know the difference between a router and a computer.


Smile__
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New Freedom, PA
reply to phoneboy3
Go away..


dvd536
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Phoenix, AZ

reply to CUBS_FAN
said by CUBS_FAN See Profile :

Sep 29, 2008 Payment. Thank you ($43.06)
WOW is that the $24.99/mo plan? looks like they're really cranking up the bullshit fees!
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this company hasn't turned a profit since their inception!
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CUBS_FAN
Next Year Again..

join:2005-04-28
Chicago, IL
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said by dvd536 See Profile :

said by CUBS_FAN See Profile :

Sep 29, 2008 Payment. Thank you ($43.06)
WOW is that the $24.99/mo plan? looks like they're really cranking up the bullshit fees!
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this company hasn't turned a profit since their inception!
No, a few international calls is included. The $35 is the normal. I use a pre-paid calling card with a local access number to call international.


CylonRed
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join:2000-07-06
Bloom County

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$35 is $4 more than my pots line. Certainly no benefit for me.


CUBS_FAN
Next Year Again..

join:2005-04-28
Chicago, IL
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·Vonage

said by CylonRed See Profile :

$35 is $4 more than my pots line. Certainly no benefit for me.
$4 more??? OMG people. That's splitting hairs here. Do you actually feel so much richer because your bill is $4 less? I don't. Maybe $10 less is a difference.

Yeah, so what if $4 saved is $48 annually. Whip-de-do. . Go put a down payment on that house with $48.


CylonRed
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County

It has more to do of Vonage not offering me ANY benefit. No reason to switch to Vonage if my bill will be more.

For folks that use a lot of long distance calling lots can be saved but they have to get enough of these folks and charge enough to make money or they will die. Vonage is not keeping these folks nor are they charging enough to make a profit.

There are plenty of folks like me where there is 0 incentive to switch.

dentman42

join:2001-10-02
Columbus, OH
·AT&T Midwest

said by CylonRed See Profile :

It has more to do of Vonage not offering me ANY benefit. No reason to switch to Vonage if my bill will be more.

For folks that use a lot of long distance calling lots can be saved but they have to get enough of these folks and charge enough to make money or they will die. Vonage is not keeping these folks nor are they charging enough to make a profit.

There are plenty of folks like me where there is 0 incentive to switch.
Plus, Vonage doesn't work when the power is out. POTS lines usually do.

My POTS line is around $21 a month after all fees. I never make LD calls, so Vonage would cost MORE, tie up some of my Internet bandwidth, and wouldn't work if the power was out or I had an ISP outage.

(Now if I were to switch to naked DSL and get a monster UPS or backup generator, I could use VOIP when my power is out, provided that DSL is still up. But where's the advantage?)
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