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Who else is going to be playing this with me next month? Can we get a DSLR group together that plays together regularly? I'd rather get some groups together that can learn to play as a team and communicate on the built-in voice chat since this game requires excellent team coordination to succeed. I really don't want to resort to PUGs in this game as I think they are bound for failure. Who else is going to be playing? I already have it purchased on Steam. If you live in a cave »left4dead411.com/ It's the next big game from Valve, completely co-op. You run off alone Rambo style, you die. Watch these videos »left4dead411.com/left-4-dead-guide »www.gametrailers.com/player/24755.html

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OMMMAAAn ive been waiting for this one! Actually thought of it last week when 36 weeks later came on TV. Im definitely going to be buying this one

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I already preordered this game because you get a $5 discount if you do. I figure I was going to buy this already anyway. I can't wait for this game to come out either. I am very excited.

In the meantime, I purchased Dead Space and Far Cry 2 to keep me occupied. Well, those games and Warhammer.
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You can get this at Circuit City for $39.99

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You act like you played this game. Rambo style will probably work fine like all other games which say you need teamplay. Just need to learn the game and play accordingly.

Also making a group that plays regularly doesn't even make sense, you just need to make the group and hope people play regularly and do your part.

Cease the assumptions General.

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You act like you played this game. Rambo style will probably work fine like all other games which say you need teamplay. Just need to learn the game and play accordingly.

Also making a group that plays regularly doesn't even make sense, you just need to make the group and hope people play regularly and do your part.

Cease the assumptions General.
Try, I live in Seattle. Valve is a 15-minute drive from me. I know a tester. Thanks for playing though. And you are completely wrong about the game. Don't take my word for it though, you can play it yourself.

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Try, I live in Seattle. Valve is a 15-minute drive from me. I know a tester. Thanks for playing though. And you are completely wrong about the game. Don't take my word for it though, you can play it yourself.
Dynamic difficulty, AI team when no other people are present. I'm sure you will be just fine without good coordination, of course your teammates will still be putting work in to your advantage. Anyway you can give me the game at any time so I can play it.

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Try, I live in Seattle. Valve is a 15-minute drive from me. I know a tester. Thanks for playing though. And you are completely wrong about the game. Don't take my word for it though, you can play it yourself.
Dynamic difficulty, AI team when no other people are present. I'm sure you will be just fine without good coordination, of course your teammates will still be putting work in to your advantage. Anyway you can give me the game at any time so I can play it.
If you are playing the survivors with 3 other real people you have to work together. There are places you can't climb without a teammate helping you. If you fall in battle, your teammate has to revive you. If you are low on health and already used your health pack they can give you theirs. The list goes on. The game forces you to work together or you'll never make it through. No, I haven't played it, but my friend is currently. If you are playing as the infected, then teamwork isn't as much of an issue though it still helps.

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Try, I live in Seattle. Valve is a 15-minute drive from me. I know a tester. Thanks for playing though. And you are completely wrong about the game. Don't take my word for it though, you can play it yourself.
Dynamic difficulty, AI team when no other people are present. I'm sure you will be just fine without good coordination, of course your teammates will still be putting work in to your advantage. Anyway you can give me the game at any time so I can play it.
If you are playing the survivors with 3 other real people you have to work together. There are places you can't climb without a teammate helping you. If you fall in battle, your teammate has to revive you. If you are low on health and already used your health pack they can give you theirs. The list goes on. The game forces you to work together or you'll never make it through. No, I haven't played it, but my friend is currently. If you are playing as the infected, then teamwork isn't as much of an issue though it still helps.
No point trying to convince them, narrow minded can't see the full potential of the game. Maybe if they read the PC Gamer preview of it then they "might" grasp the concept of coop.

*EDIT* I'm JIGA on steam.

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No point trying to convince them, narrow minded can't see the full potential of the game. Maybe if they read the PC Gamer preview of it then they "might" grasp the concept of coop.

*EDIT* I'm JIGA on steam.
You're right. How about this, if you aren't interested in the game and just have negative things to say please don't post. This thread is for people who are excited for the game and actually want to play coop together as intended.

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Of course, those elements are all taken into consideration and you have to accommodate for all that, that's pretty obvious. Like in GRAW2 that I played, my team is always stuck on me but I did 90%+ of the work. You people are the ones narrow minded here, open games can be played with different styles not just butt buddy style.

I understand the concept of Coop JIGA, where did you get the impression that I did not.

I look forward to playing with you two.

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Try, I live in Seattle. Valve is a 15-minute drive from me. I know a tester. Thanks for playing though. And you are completely wrong about the game. Don't take my word for it though, you can play it yourself.
Dynamic difficulty, AI team when no other people are present. I'm sure you will be just fine without good coordination, of course your teammates will still be putting work in to your advantage. Anyway you can give me the game at any time so I can play it.
you shouldn't use general assumtion if you have not played the game, take your own advice, at least try it and see for yourself

your own quote "Cease the assumptions General."

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said by sapo See Profile :

You act like you played this game. Rambo style will probably work fine like all other games which say you need teamplay. Just need to learn the game and play accordingly.

Also making a group that plays regularly doesn't even make sense, you just need to make the group and hope people play regularly and do your part.

Cease the assumptions General.
Play the game! you will see rambo style does NOT work

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Play the game! you will see rambo style does NOT work
Read the dates smart man, I bought the game, those posts are ancient. Anyways as long as people keep bosses off I can manage. I've been consistently getting all getting kill records so far in completing the campaigns with my teams so I'm doing good enough.

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Play the game! you will see rambo style does NOT work
Read the dates smart man, I bought the game, those posts are ancient. Anyways as long as people keep bosses off I can manage. I've been consistently getting all getting kill records so far in completing the campaigns with my teams so I'm doing good enough.
I didn't know that a date less than a month ago is considered ancient.
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Play the game! you will see rambo style does NOT work
Read the dates smart man, I bought the game, those posts are ancient. Anyways as long as people keep bosses off I can manage. I've been consistently getting all getting kill records so far in completing the campaigns with my teams so I'm doing good enough.
I didn't know that a date less than a month ago is considered ancient.
As ancient as the dirt thats falling off of the rotting corpses I'm putting down with my shottie.

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said by Nightfall See Profile :

said by sapo See Profile :

said by Fluke See Profile :

Play the game! you will see rambo style does NOT work
Read the dates smart man, I bought the game, those posts are ancient. Anyways as long as people keep bosses off I can manage. I've been consistently getting all getting kill records so far in completing the campaigns with my teams so I'm doing good enough.
I didn't know that a date less than a month ago is considered ancient.
heh me either and I didnt see him take back any of his earlier ancient comments so I didnt know he knew he was wrong and changed his mind :P

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said by sapo See Profile :

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Play the game! you will see rambo style does NOT work
...Anyways as long as people keep bosses off I can manage. I've been consistently getting all getting kill records so far in completing the campaigns with my teams so I'm doing good enough.
So you are saying you DO need help and you can do it if others keep the bosses off of you. Hmm Rambo didnt need help ok

I play it I am not always at the top I dont always have the kill records but I do have fun

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The term "Rambo" is loose by definition. Just the meaning of is debatable. The game basically make it impossible to play 100% alone, that's just the nature of its design. Call it forceful teamplay if you will. The point I made earlier in the old posts is that within the means this games design one can go "Rambo". Would you not consider one player having near or as many kills as the other 3 teammates combined Rambo? Also, the movie Rambo didn't do things all on his own either, so that's not a valid point.

A loose definition along with a restricted game design. Seems perfectly agreeable to me. Don't get me wrong, this game is awesome and there are plenty of players out there who can beat me.

Btw, on the internet the time between these posts and my old posts are definitely considered ancient. Just try to look up inactive original posts from that time, even in places with low traffic such as this it requires you to go through over 30 things. Just try with a place like digg.

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Thats not ancient to me. And in your earlier posts (copied below) you were all about how you could do it alone, hence the conversation since then, from your posts now I see that you have changed your mind And when one says "rambo" style they mean they can do it all alone

those comments made by me were about your earlier posts. Im not always right either about a game, but when I see someone bashing a game before they played it that I like I like to be all "rambo" and speak up.
Anyways its a great game I think we both agree on that

your words below...
"You act like you played this game. Rambo style will probably work fine like all other games which say you need teamplay. Just need to learn the game and play accordingly...
...cease the assumptions General."
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Your interpretations are a bit off. First of all, you would not be able to provide any basis for that specific "Rambo" definition so I cannot accept that as an absolute truth. It's too easy to just change around what it means this way to suit your argument. Fairly useless to argue. Also the below quoted statement contained the word "probably" which therefore does not make it a assumption as it cannot be taken for granted. Probable just states a higher likelihood.
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The movie Rambo had him all alone. That right there makes any argument of Rambo as one person.

Personally I like playing as my ancestor's styles, Francis Marion from the revolutionary war (my mother's side) and Jonathan Jackson, the confederate general from the civil war (father's side).

I like to run around, dodge when I need to, and shoot to kill, not try any fancy shit.

Yes, I'm related to The Swamp Fox and Stonewall Jackson. I personally don't see why anyone needs to race around and play as a guy who would die fast in real life, sorry to break it to rambo lovers, when real war generals in history were the real ones whose styles should be mimicked.

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said by sapo See Profile :

Your interpretations are a bit off. First of all, you would not be able to provide any basis for that specific "Rambo" definition so I cannot accept that as an absolute truth. It's too easy to just change around what it means this way to suit your argument. Fairly useless to argue. Also the below quoted statement contained the word "probably" which therefore does not make it a assumption as it cannot be taken for granted. Probable just states a higher likelihood.
Actually I was wrong for taking you at your word in your earlier posts when you were telling everyone how wrong they were. I guess I didn't read the Internet rules that posts over so many days were ancient and therefore anything said by you is null and void and no longer true.
And You are unable to prove that I am unable to provide and basis for the specific rambo definition so it is still absolute truth until I read somewhere on the Internet thats posted within the acceptable amount of time allowed that it still remains true.

Oh never mind I just looked to see when the last Rambo movie was out and its now ancient therefore it no longer matters and any references to it are no longer true.
And I bow out you win the argument or friendly banter as i thought it was

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You make negative sense.

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The game looks interesting indeed, and can be rather amusing with the right team . I may or may not decide to purchase it, shall see demo first .
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I've been waiting on this game ever since I read about it in PC Gamer either late last year or early this year.

What I found most interesting about it is that first off, it's co-op. Secondly you can play as a zombie and attack the human players! You can setup ambush areas and you have some type of vision where you can see exactly where the humans are so you can attack in surprise. There are suppose to be 4 types of super zombies that players can play.

Sounds like a lot of fun and I love zombie games. I'm broke this paycheck but I will be picking it up on Friday. Lets keep this thread fresh and add in our steam names so we can put each other on friends list. I haven't logged into steam for a while so I cannot remember my name/email addy I used... will check that when I get home.

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My Steam name is the same as here, winterforge. Thanks Jiga!

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Looks like every other zombie source mod, with the same type of blood as seen in half life... and every other mod.

Not worth it in my opinion.

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Not to terribly excited. They've made it way to 'unrealistic' when compared to George Romero canon - And it's just way to arcadey now. That said, it still looks like it will be a blast. I just don't like the fact that they made such a major shift towards being an arcadey game.
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Not to terribly excited. They've made it way to 'unrealistic' when compared to George Romero canon - And it's just way to arcadey now. That said, it still looks like it will be a blast. I just don't like the fact that they made such a major shift towards being an arcadey game.
What do you find arcadey about it? The speed of the zombies? They are following more of the 28 Days Later and I Am Legend type zombie, not the George Romero slow-shambling my grandma has time to aim and shoot them type

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Not to terribly excited. They've made it way to 'unrealistic' when compared to George Romero canon - And it's just way to arcadey now. That said, it still looks like it will be a blast. I just don't like the fact that they made such a major shift towards being an arcadey game.
In the March 2008 preview in PC Gamer it shows a screen shot with the common zombies in a full sprint. This is a fast combat zombie game. The zombies were inspired by the 28 days later movie which flows well with this game.

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The Infected

The Infected are Left 4 Dead's foe of the Survivors, and they are partly inspired by the infected from the 2002 film 28 Days Later[17] The Infected, as opposed to the slow, shuffling zombies associated with Night of the Living Dead or Half-Life, are fast and agile, creating quite a formidable foe. They can be dealt with easily on their own, but in great numbers are difficult to defeat. In addition, there are five mutated Infected who have their own special mutant abilities and are more powerful than the regular Infected.
This game is actually targeted towards the competitive counter strike crowd, per what the designers of L4D say. If you want a quote source on that find a copy of PC Gamer Magazine issue 172

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Re: Left 4 Dead - Who's With Me?

I've been keeping track of this game since late 2006. It was a lot different then.

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i will be buying this as soon as i have the money to do so. Valve has never let me down and L4D looks very good if you actually read up on it. they hired Turtlerock studios into Valve to make the game and the founder of Turtlerock is an AI genious who worked on the Red Alert series.

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said by Somnambul33t See Profile :

i will be buying this as soon as i have the money to do so. Valve has never let me down and L4D looks very good if you actually read up on it. they hired Turtlerock studios into Valve to make the game and the founder of Turtlerock is an AI genious who worked on the Red Alert series.
That's one reason why I expect this game to do well, Valve basically is a hitmaker.

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ill be picking this up, Steam/valve games are the only, ONLY games i buy nowadays. nothing else is worth buying when its freely available.

see you online. name is Smatch55 i believe for steam. go ahead and add me if you like, i play a ton of tf2 and cs: s every so often.
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Read an article about Valve Software/Steam in Game Informer. At the end of the 8 page article there was a one pager about Left 4 Dead. They pumped it up pretty good, and Valve/Gabe has projected it to reach 20-30% higher worldwide sales than the Orange Box.

Here is a small quote from the article.
"Left 4 Dead impressed us so much at E3 that we named it our Game of the Show, and it has only improved in the intervening months."

"Versus in L4D is completely unique and plays like nothing else in video games - the Valve polish gamers expect is evident."

Hell, I was already sold on this game just from the article in PC Gamers March issue I read.

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Can't find you on Steam Friends winterforge.

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I'm in! Pre-purchased on Steam Monday night. Can't wait!
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Could not find you on Steam either winterforge. My Steam name is the same as here, Trooper.

Edit: Nevermind..added you!
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If I'm right in my assumption this is alot like Zombie Panic, a HL 1 and 2 mod.

»www.zombiepanic.org/site/index.php

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Reminds me of the Zombie mod for CS... lol

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that vid is absolutely insane! i didnt think i could want L4D anymore than i already did but now i do

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I pre-purchased the game. My steam alias is "DreamKiller". Also, join the current DSLR group on steam. It'd be easier to get games going that way with the chat.

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Friend just gave it to me as a gift, looks like I'll be playing.

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Just finished the demo, it's going to be a fun lanning/coop game!
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