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Re: pfft...
said by Defiance82  :I bet you can hit that 250 GB cap in less than 30 min now :-p This has become the new "First Post!" nonsense.
Really, this is old. Yes we know you can do basic math. Here's a gold star.
*clap clap*
Now please move along, there's a cookie and a glass of Kool-Aid waiting at the end of the line.
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nasadude
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Rockville, MD | perhaps the point might be better stated:
why bother with faster speeds when all it means is you hit the cap sooner?
having caps in place while touting faster speeds as a selling point is sort of contradictory. |
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Matt
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| said by nasadude :perhaps the point might be better stated: why bother with faster speeds when all it means is you hit the cap sooner? That is a non-sequitur and an equally bogus argument.
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said by Matt :Now please move along, there's a cookie and a glass of Kool-Aid waiting at the end of the line. *Runs to the end of the line to get cookie and glass of Kool-Aid* 
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Hangmn
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said by Matt :said by nasadude :perhaps the point might be better stated: why bother with faster speeds when all it means is you hit the cap sooner? That is a non-sequitur and an equally bogus argument. Matt those of us in multi user households see these CAPS as BOGUS..whether or not we agree with your view point is completely off point..what is ON POINT is historically bandwidth costs have GONE DOWN and fees have GONE UP. With that being said, these MSOs should be UPGRADING their INFRASTRUCTURE instead of MILKING the consumer..how's that for a valid argument??
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said by nasadude :why bother with faster speeds when all it means is you hit the cap sooner? having caps in place while touting faster speeds as a selling point is sort of contradictory. No, it's not. I'll be happy to download a file twice as fast. It doesn't mean that now I'll download TWO files instead of just one. Why would I suddenly want an extra file that I didn't care about before? The only people affected are the ones who download constantly, most of whom are doing something illegal, and Comcast doesn't want them as customers anyway. |
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richdelb
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I could really use a cookie and some Kool-Aid about now.... |
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massysett
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said by Hangmn :these MSOs should be UPGRADING their INFRASTRUCTURE instead of MILKING the consumer..how's that for a valid argument?? umm, did you read the article at all? Comcast is rolling out DOCSIS 3.0, a major UPGRADE of INFRASTRUCTURE? |
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Matt
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said by Hangmn :said by Matt :said by nasadude :perhaps the point might be better stated: why bother with faster speeds when all it means is you hit the cap sooner? That is a non-sequitur and an equally bogus argument. Matt those of us in multi user households see these CAPS as BOGUS..whether or not we agree with your view point is completely off point..what is ON POINT is historically bandwidth costs have GONE DOWN and fees have GONE UP. With that being said, these MSOs should be UPGRADING their INFRASTRUCTURE instead of MILKING the consumer..how's that for a valid argument?? I agree they should upgrade infrastructure. I just don't buy the argument that providing faster speeds immediately means you'll consume a significantly higher amount of data.
And FWIW, I am in a multi-user household.
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said by Matt :said by Defiance82 :Now please move along, there's a cookie and a glass of Kool-Aid waiting at the end of the line. Is that cookie and Kool-Aid free MattE? 
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said by Hangmn :said by Matt :said by nasadude :perhaps the point might be better stated: why bother with faster speeds when all it means is you hit the cap sooner? That is a non-sequitur and an equally bogus argument. Matt those of us in multi user households see these CAPS as BOGUS..whether or not we agree with your view point is completely off point..what is ON POINT is historically bandwidth costs have GONE DOWN and fees have GONE UP. With that being said, these MSOs should be UPGRADING their INFRASTRUCTURE instead of MILKING the consumer..how's that for a valid argument?? Look at it this way, are your online habits (or those of the people in your house) going to somehow change just because you have a higher speed connection? Unless there is 24/7 downloading going on (P2P comes to mind), these higher speed tiers wont really impact your overall bandwidth consumption. Its not like you will physically watch more Youtube videos (or Hulu, or Netflix, or (fill in the blank)) just because you can download content quicker.
EDIT: The purpose of my post isnt to argue wether caps are good or bad. I am simply pointing out that higher speed connections dont necessarily mean you will hit those caps sooner.
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Hangmn
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| said by wifi4milez :Look at it this way, are your online habits (or those of the people in your house) going to somehow change just because you have a higher speed connection? Unless there is 24/7 downloading going on (P2P comes to mind), these higher speed tiers wont really impact your overall bandwidth consumption. Its not like you will physically watch more Youtube videos (or Hulu, or Netflix, or (fill in the blank)) just because you can download content quicker. EDIT: The purpose of my post isnt to argue wether caps are good or bad. I am simply pointing out that higher speed connections dont necessarily mean you will hit those caps sooner. And I completely agree. However, at this stage to offer me more speed, AND at the same time institute caps just seems a bit arbitrary. I understand the need for TV CONTENT providers to LIMIT my CONTENT derived from a COMPETING medium (internet for all those having trouble following). A better go at this than offering BOTH faster speeds and BUILT in LIMITS would be to offer CONTENT we all WANT in a manner that is decided by me.
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iansltx
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Golden, CO | reply to quatrix
Easy answer: watching HD instead of SD content.
Easy answer: downloading less-compressed, higher-resolution content.
Satisfied? |
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Matt
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| said by iansltx :Easy answer: watching HD instead of SD content. Easy answer: downloading less-compressed, higher-resolution content. Satisfied? And why wouldn't you do this now with your current connection? I do and I only have 15Mbps.
Having 50Mbps isn't suddenly going to change downloading, viewing, or browsing habits. It certainly will over time, but it's not like as soon as a customer upgrades to 50Mbps they're going to consume a proportionately higher amount of data.
The 250GB cap isn't chiseled in stone. It can (and likely will) be raised over time as necessary.
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wifi4milez
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said by iansltx :Easy answer: watching HD instead of SD content. Easy answer: downloading less-compressed, higher-resolution content. Satisfied? I disagree. Right now I "only" have 5Mbps/512k, and whenever possible I download HD content. In fact, I watch movies on my PS3 (via the PS3 store) specifically because some are offered in HD. My viewing habits are not going to change simply because I have a faster download speed, that doesnt make sense. As I said before, this will only immediately impact people that "queue up" content via P2P.
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I hope the cap will be raised...
I have 8 Mbps here. I do HD stuff but would do more if I had a faster connection.
Speaking of faster connections, 50 Mbps service has enough of a price differential that only power users will buy that tier. Or not...they aren't going to buy something where cost-per-GB is over 50 cents. If you have that fat of a pipe and are paying that much, by golly you're going to use it.
Granted, I probably wouldn't use much more on a 12/2 connection than I am right now on 8/2 service. But I'd certainly use more on a 22/5 connection (photo uploads, backup, etc.) and I'd use the heck out of a 50/10 line, with what I'd pay for it...
If D3 ever comes out here though, I'll probably not stick on my current service tier. It'll either be an upgrade to 22/5 or a downgrade to 12/2. |
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Matt
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| said by iansltx :If D3 ever comes out here though, I'll probably not stick on my current service tier. It'll either be an upgrade to 22/5 or a downgrade to 12/2. D3 being Diablo 3?
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this will be a research mechanism for Comcast regarding caps if nothing else. If the roll out of DOCSIS 3 means the MAJORITY of customers are hitting caps sooner, theres always the possibility of Comcast raising caps. This of course would happen if there was a major public outcry.
However the opposite may also true. Another likely scenario is that after the roll out happens, Comcast builds a new median baseline based on usage, and further lowers the caps to that point. This will screw the power user .
we'll see
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ualdayan
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Considering what this thread is about I'd assume when he says D3 he means Docsis 3.0 |
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