tc1uscg
join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI
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Re: The lab is busy
said by phoneboy3 :
You read my mind. LOL!
This is just more Telco propaganda designed to cool enthusiasm for Mobile WiMax. A standard that is every bit as good and fast as LTE and at least 3-5 years ahead of it.
Even the Telco's are admiting it won't be available until at least 2010. Looking at history that would mean in reality we are looking at 2012-2015. It will be game over by them IMHO. WiMax already won. The loser just doesn't know it yet.
 Yep.. your are right on target. People talk about the DEEP pockets of VZW and AT&T but they don't seem to realize that if they were SERIOUS about all this, they would put the money behind it and RUSH it out just to stunt WiMAX's growth. But while it's still in the LAB and YEARS away from REAL-LIFE use, guess they just don't want to reach down and dig deep..  |
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phoneboy3
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You mean the CDMA that is pretty much being non-existant outside the US/Canada and is about to be overlayed on the North American CDMA providers networks with the follow on to GSM (HSPA).
So yea it may co-exist for awhile and then LTE will just fade away. I maintain that since Wi-MAX is soooooooo far ahead in this case LTE will never get off the ground. In 3-5 years the ecomomies of scale will take over and Wi-MAX will be much cheaper to deploy compared to LTE it just won't make ecomomic sense to deploy a completely separate technology. They will probably, at the very least, try make LTE more like Wi-MAX so the equipment is more compatible. |
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wifi4milez
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New York, NY
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said by xenophon  :There will be winner or loser, they'll both co-exist. This isn't like Bluray/HDDVD fight. It's more like cable vs. dsl, satellite tv vs cable tv. There was no 'winner' in the latter two as the playing field is defined by what resources are available to the provider. WiMAX will be pushed by IEEE and the consumer electronics industry. LTE will be pushed by the telcom industry. Both will exist long term. I agree. It will be like CDMA/GSM is here in the states.
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xenophon
join:2007-09-17
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| reply to phoneboy3
There will be winner or loser, they'll both co-exist. This isn't like Bluray/HDDVD fight. It's more like cable vs. dsl, satellite tv vs cable tv. There was no 'winner' in the latter two as the playing field is defined by what resources are available to the provider.
WiMAX will be pushed by IEEE and the consumer electronics industry. LTE will be pushed by the telcom industry. Both will exist long term. |
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ninjatutle
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join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | reply to Ahrenl
MetroFi lasted 2-3 years. It was free and nobody wanted it. I see Xohm going the same route but maybe lasting 1 year. |
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xenophon
join:2007-09-17
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said by ninjatutle :The problem with WiMAX is the coverage. They wont have the same coverage as these cell sites. Not good for a mobile user. Combo EVDO/WiMAX cards will be coming by the end of the year. It would be an issue for WiMAX/WiFi only devices for a few years though. |
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Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA | reply to wifi4milez
If they're still in business in two years. |
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phoneboy3
@shawcable.net
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You read my mind. LOL!
This is just more Telco propaganda designed to cool enthusiasm for Mobile WiMax. A standard that is every bit as good and fast as LTE and at least 3-5 years ahead of it.
Even the Telco's are admiting it won't be available until at least 2010. Looking at history that would mean in reality we are looking at 2012-2015. It will be game over by them IMHO. WiMax already won. The loser just doesn't know it yet. |
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ninjatutle
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join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | reply to xenophon
The problem with WiMAX is the coverage. They wont have the same coverage as these cell sites. Not good for a mobile user. |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
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| reply to xenophon
said by xenophon :Nextgen WiMAX 802.11m will be out by the time LTE makes it out the door. 802.11m is able to do 300Mbps mobile and 1Gbps fixed. Of course individual users will probably not ever really see this. The challenge for all 4G carriers will be providing enough bandwidth to every site and having enough spectrum. ATT/Verizon only have about 25Mhz or so per market in the 700mhz space. Sprint/Clearwire will have over 100Mhz per market of 4G spectrum. Talking theoretical MAX makes for good marketing though. Not to mention that Sprint/Clearwire will have had roughly two years head start on both Verizon and ATT. Xohm will be fully rolled out in many markets long before the first LTE test markets come on line. Sprint/Clearwire might even be rolling out "version 2" of Xohm by the time the LTE crowd gets to the dance floor. Two years is a good amount of time to pick up a few hundred thousand (or well more than that) subscribers, Verizon/ATT should be very careful here!
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xenophon
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Nextgen WiMAX 802.11m will be out by the time LTE makes it out the door. 802.11m is able to do 300Mbps mobile and 1Gbps fixed. Of course individual users will probably not ever really see this.
The challenge for all 4G carriers will be providing enough bandwidth to every site and having enough spectrum. ATT/Verizon only have about 25Mhz or so per market in the 700mhz space. Sprint/Clearwire will have over 100Mhz per market of 4G spectrum.
Talking theoretical MAX makes for good marketing though. |
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tc1uscg
join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI | Nice see the LAB is still busy testing LTE. Alarming that it's news..  |
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