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battleop

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Re: here you go right off there websight!

Why because they don't give it away? CenturyTel customers are in some very rural areas where the per customer prices are much more expensive than in urban areas.

iansltx_

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Re: here you go right off there websight!

Windstream serves similarly out-in-the-boonies areas, and they have 12 Mbps service at rates competitive with cable, across most of their footprint.

Also, interesting to know, about the FTTH deal. Guess it's similar with all these rural ILECs: fiber in new developments, copper in old.

inteller
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said by battleop:

Why because they don't give it away? CenturyTel customers are in some very rural areas where the per customer prices are much more expensive than in urban areas.
bullshit bullshit bullshit....the copper has been in the ground for ages and has paid for itself many times over. it doesn't cost any more to install a DSLAM in the CO that it does in any other more urban market. Save me that Centurytel propaganda bullshit. We are not talking about huge sub divisions being built in the middle of no where. Stop trying to justify their ridiculous pricing. They charge what they charge because they can get away with it.

kontos
xyzzy

join:2001-10-04
West Henrietta, NY

Re: here you go right off there websight!

said by inteller:

said by battleop:

Why because they don't give it away? CenturyTel customers are in some very rural areas where the per customer prices are much more expensive than in urban areas.
bullshit bullshit bullshit....the copper has been in the ground for ages and has paid for itself many times over. it doesn't cost any more to install a DSLAM in the CO that it does in any other more urban market.
Ummm. That's the point of the GP's post. The rural provider has to pay the same amount of money for a DSLAM that serves up to 81 households as an urban provider pays for one that serves thousands. I know that a smaller chassis and fewer line cards will be somewhat cheaper for CenTel, but the Per Subscriber cost will still be higher

inteller
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Re: here you go right off there websight!

said by kontos:

I know that a smaller chassis and fewer line cards will be somewhat cheaper for CenTel, but the Per Subscriber cost will still be higher
and that's my point. They aren't going to scale out a deployment to equal thousands in a CO that serves only a few. that way per subscriber costs will be the same. So they have a chassis that has 3 cards as opposed to 30, big deal it isn't breaking their bank. worst case scenario is they are filling up a chassis and bend over a few customers to pay for it.

dsldude08
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Re: here you go right off there websight!

You unfortunately have a distorted view of how businesses run. Why would they scale out 30 cards to only 3 subscribers? A bit of overload wouldn't you say?

kontos
xyzzy

join:2001-10-04
West Henrietta, NY

Re: here you go right off there websight!

said by dsldude08:

You unfortunately have a distorted view of how businesses run. Why would they scale out 30 cards to only 3 subscribers? A bit of overload wouldn't you say?
No inteller See Profile's distorted view is that he thinks you can get 3 cards for 10% of the price of 30. That's not how it works.

inteller
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Re: here you go right off there websight!

well actually yes that is how it works, you buy the chassis and then you buy the cars per. If you think that is wrong then obviously you don't need to be buying the equipment for your company. to do it any other way would break the whole cost benefit of chassis backplane systems.

battleop

join:2005-09-28
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Re: here you go right off there websight!

If it were as easy and cheap as you claim they would be doing this. Contrary to popular opinion no one is sitting around a big conference table smoking fine cigars trying to figure out more ways to screw you.

There is a lot more to deploying DSL in the more rural areas than just buying a few line cards.
forefun

join:2004-04-21
Austin, TX

Re: here you go right off there websight!

Well put...

inteller
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said by battleop:

If it were as easy and cheap as you claim they would be doing this. Contrary to popular opinion no one is sitting around a big conference table smoking fine cigars trying to figure out more ways to screw you.

There is a lot more to deploying DSL in the more rural areas than just buying a few line cards.
oh yes thats right I forgot, in rural areas the ground is made of pure granite and all of the copper has to be plated in gold so the saber tooth squirrels won't bite through it.

give me a fucking break.

battleop

join:2005-09-28
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Re: here you go right off there websight!

When all else fails throw out an analogy that means nothing. If that doesn't work dazzle them with your ability to cuss like a 13 year old.

kontos
xyzzy

join:2001-10-04
West Henrietta, NY

Re: here you go right off there websight!

Must be inteller has never seen a bulk/quantity discount before. That's even before we get to the difference between direct from manufacturer (the price that say, VZ can get) and wholesaler markup prices.

inteller
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Re: here you go right off there websight!

yes because we all know that the 500 cards that Centurytel buys in bulk for its urban markets don't work in its rural DSLAM chassis. noooo.centurytel doesn't get any discount at all....whatever.

kontos
xyzzy

join:2001-10-04
West Henrietta, NY

Re: here you go right off there websight!

said by inteller:

yes because we all know that the 500 cards that Centurytel buys in bulk for its urban markets don't work in its rural DSLAM chassis. noooo.centurytel doesn't get any discount at all....whatever.
500 at a time isn't exactly bulk when compared to the 50,000 at a time that a company like VZ or AT&T can easily do.

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