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said by nasadude  :...widespread, affordable broadband... what? you have to be kidding... |
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| said by bender :said by nasadude :...widespread, affordable broadband... what? you have to be kidding... Not at all... Once Obama is elected, taxes will go up so he can redistribute wealth bring broadband to all. |
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said by bender :said by nasadude :...widespread, affordable broadband... what? you have to be kidding... naw, just dreaming. |
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said by ropeguru :said by bender :said by nasadude :...widespread, affordable broadband... what? you have to be kidding... Not at all... Once Obama is elected, taxes will go up so he can redistribute wealth bring broadband to all. considering that I don't pay income taxes(disabled vet pulling disability while I go to school on the post 9/11 GI bill »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-9/11_···_of_2008) i dont give a rats ass about raising taxes. so if thats what it takes to get more competition in the broadband markets then by all means bring it on! |
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said by ropeguru :Not at all... Once Obama is elected, taxes will go up so he can redistribute wealth bring broadband to all. At least one of the candidates is being somewhat honest about the fact that his programs cost money and that to pay for them, he will have to raise taxes on the people who dodge most of their taxes anyway. McCain will just continue the last eight years of driving the government further into debt, as evidenced by the way he talks about his budget.
Just a side note, both of the candidates suck, so don't mistake me for Obama supporter.
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1 edit | said by NetAdmin :said by ropeguru :Not at all... Once Obama is elected, taxes will go up so he can redistribute wealth bring broadband to all. At least one of the candidates is being somewhat honest about the fact that his programs cost money and that to pay for them, he will have to raise taxes on the people who dodge most of their taxes anyway. McCain will just continue the last eight years of driving the government further into debt, as evidenced by the way he talks about his budget. But the fact of the matter is that it will be raise don those that hire people to work for them. When this happens, it will just force more companies to downsize and move overseas which will kill the economy even more.
said by NetAdmin :Just a side note, both of the candidates suck, so don't mistake me for Obama supporter. Afraid I have to agree with you there. Can't we just vote none of the above and start over?  |
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| said by ropeguru :But the fact of the matter is that it will be raise don those that hire people to work for them. When this happens, it will just force more companies to downsize and move overseas which will kill the economy even more. I have heard that claim made many times - that raising the tax rates on the PERSONAL incomes of CEOs, other overpaid execs and people with high incomes would result force companies to downsize - but have yet to see anyone prove that higher tax rates on PERSONAL income and unemployment rates are linked. I would believe high corporate tax rates might affect employment numbers, but not taxes on personal income.
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1 edit | said by NetAdmin :said by ropeguru :But the fact of the matter is that it will be raise don those that hire people to work for them. When this happens, it will just force more companies to downsize and move overseas which will kill the economy even more. I have heard that claim made many times - that raising the tax rates on the PERSONAL incomes of CEOs, other overpaid execs and people with high incomes would result force companies to downsize - but have yet to see anyone prove that higher tax rates on PERSONAL income and unemployment rates are linked. I would believe high corporate tax rates might affect employment numbers, but not taxes on personal income. I wasn't talking only about personal incomes. He stands to raise taxes and put other burdens directly on businesses too. That is where the issue will be in forcing them overseas. |
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said by bender :considering that I don't pay income taxes(disabled vet pulling disability while I go to school on the post 9/11 GI bill » en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-9/11_···_of_2008) i dont give a rats ass about raising taxes. so if thats what it takes to get more competition in the broadband markets then by all means bring it on! You might someday if you ever end up working and paying taxes.
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As opposed to the system now of redistributing wealth from people yet unborn to people living now.
That's exactly why deficits matter.
You're naive if you think your taxes are not going up; there's trillions of dollars to be paid back. Where do you think the money is going to come from? You, that's who. They'll get it two ways by either taxing you directly, or inflating the money supply and stealth taxing you through inflation. |
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said by bender :considering that I don't pay income taxes(disabled vet pulling disability while I go to school on the post 9/11 GI bill » en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-9/11_···_of_2008) i dont give a rats ass about raising taxes. so if thats what it takes to get more competition in the broadband markets then by all means bring it on! Interesting, I was thinking that instead of raising taxes we could just make some of these sorry, so called disabled people and some of these lazy adults hiding in school ( that don't know how to use apostrophes ) get out and go to work and contribute to society, instead of just sitting around sucking it dry, then we wouldn't have to ever raise taxes. Since I'm neither I think that would be a grand solution! |
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said by ropeguru :said by bender :said by nasadude :...widespread, affordable broadband... what? you have to be kidding... Not at all... Once Obama is elected, taxes will go up so he can redistribute wealth bring broadband to all. Unlike McCain right? I mean in order to give people too "poor" to get their own health insurance a $5000 government check for health insurance he's going to tax the insurance premiums of those that currently get their insurance through their job. Not only is that redistributing wealth it's also a tax hike on WORKING Americans. But go ahead and bash Obama. |
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| said by BF69 :But go ahead and bash Obama. Thank you. I will exercise my First Amendment right.  |
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said by ropeguru :said by bender :said by nasadude :...widespread, affordable broadband... what? you have to be kidding... Not at all... Once Obama is elected, taxes will go up so he can redistribute wealth bring broadband to all. Ha, taken right from the Republican spin machine, well copied/pasted 
Republican tax plan would make more sense if they also included a top level tax CPA for free that would do your taxes every year. Somehow I don't think top companies or private business that make enough to be affected are really worried about the tax increase that much.
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said by ropeguru :I wasn't talking only about personal incomes. He stands to raise taxes and put other burdens directly on businesses too. That is where the issue will be in forcing them overseas. Spin on words, you forgot that the raise on taxes for business can be offset by keeping jobs here, good health insurance for employees, and many other tax breaks/perks for the business that would be in the same tax plan, etc. All of which their Accountant/Tax CPA will know about and certainly use come tax time. You should really read in depth of what both candidates want to do because you are just taking one part "he's going to raise taxes" and applying the chicken little sky falling effect to it.
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said by ropeguru :said by BF69 :But go ahead and bash Obama. Thank you. I will exercise my First Amendment right. Your right to be ignorant of the facts. I'm not even an Obama supporter, but if you insist calling out Obama you better look at YOUR candidate because he isn't any different despite WTF he says. George Bush Sr said in 1988 "read my lips, no new taxes" them promptly raised them anyways. So sorry if I take McCain's BS with a grain of salt. |
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said by knightmb :Ha, taken right from the Republican spin machine, well copied/pasted Republican tax plan would make more sense if they also included a top level tax CPA for free that would do your taxes every year. Somehow I don't think top companies or private business that make enough to be affected are really worried about the tax increase that much. Obama = tax and spend
McCain = borrow from China with interest and spend. |
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