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<description><![CDATA[TherapyChick posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/239636" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=239636');">tschmidt</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/876879" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=876879');">TherapyChick</a>:</small><br><br>From what I've heard, the pine wood has a lot of sap in it that coats the inside of the fireplace. <br> </div>Depends on the fire and how well the wood is cured.<br><br>Pine is very resinous. You want the resin to burn in the fire box and not be vaporized and carried up the flue where is condenses into Creosote.<br><br>/tom <br> </div>That's probably true, I was just always told growing up to not burn the pine logs, only the oak.   Might have been one of those "old wives tales" or something.<br><br><small>--<br>Certified <A HREF="http://www.dibbsolutions.com">Medisoft</a> reseller.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[james1 posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1616848" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1616848');">mridianguy</a>:</small><br><br>Don&#146;t waste the tree!<br></div>Don't bump useless, 2 month old threads!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Hayward posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/610550" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=610550');">RR Conductor</a>:</small><br><br>Huh? </div> You are missing an N....<br><br>So back at ya Hunh?<br><br>roomate.... were oil is.... don't ski or skate what do I neeed with frozen water... moved from  frozen Canadien border to sub tropic Cuban border.... this is rocket science to understand?<br><br><small>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://haywardm.com" >haywardm.com</A> (Hayward's Key West)<br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[tschmidt posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/876879" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=876879');">TherapyChick</a>:</small><br><br>From what I've heard, the pine wood has a lot of sap in it that coats the inside of the fireplace. <br> </div>Depends on the fire and how well the wood is cured.<br><br>Pine is very resinous. You want the resin to burn in the fire box and not be vaporized and carried up the flue where is condenses into Creosote.<br><br>/tom ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[TherapyChick posted : From what I've heard, the pine wood has a lot of sap in it that coats the inside of the fireplace.  Over time, this builds up and could catch fire and burn the house down.  Other than that you could be fine.<br><small>--<br>Certified <A HREF="http://www.dibbsolutions.com">Medisoft</a> reseller.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[RR Conductor posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/171865" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=171865');">Hayward</a>:</small><br><br>   <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>reply to signmeuptoo<br><br>Get an oil burner.....and a new room mate.<hr></blockquote><br><br>Like maybe one from IRAN???.<br><br>I'd rather just move south.... as I did...Canadien border to CUban border... and freezing when its 60... and need a jacket and long pants, instead or T and shorts.<br> </div>Huh?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Hayward posted :   <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>reply to signmeuptoo<br><br>Get an oil burner.....and a new room mate.<hr></blockquote><br><br>Like maybe one from IRAN???.<br><br>I'd rather just move south.... as I did...Canadien border to CUban border... and freezing when its 60... and need a jacket and long pants, instead or T and shorts.<br><small>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://haywardm.com" >haywardm.com</A> (Hayward's Key West)<br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[mridianguy posted : Don&#146;t waste the tree!<br>Truth is thousands of people in the western and northern states myself included burn pine.<br>With a good install on a stainless steel triple wall all fuel chimney pipe you can burn coal to green wood.<br>It is better to run your stove hot and not chock the fire.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : just some info from a chimney sweep website<br><br>What REALLY causes creosote to build up? Creosote is the condensation of unburned, flammable particulates present in the exhausting flue gas (smoke). The actual cause of creosote condensation, is the surface temperature of the flue in which the flue gas comes in contact. Like hot breath on a cold mirror, if the surface temperature of the flue is cool, it will cause the vaporized carbon particles in the flue gas (smoke) to solidify. This condensation is creosote build-up. If the wood you are using is rain logged, or green, the fire will tend to smolder. Wet wood causes the whole system to be cool, and inefficient. But, dry wood means a hot fire! A hot fire means a hot flue, and a hot flue means much less creosote.<br><br>  <br>Back in the early 1980's, tests were conducted to discover which kind of wood created the most creosote in a regular "open" fireplace. The results were surprising. Contrary to popular opinion, the hardwood's, like oak and madrone, created MORE creosote than the softwoods, like fir and pine. The reason for this, is that if the softwoods are dry, they create a hotter, more intense fire. The draft created by the hotter fire moves the air up the chimney faster! Because it is moving faster, the flue gas does not have as much time to condense as creosote inside the chimney. Also, because the flue gas is hotter: it does not cool down to the condensation point as quickly. On the contrary, the dense hardwood's tend to smolder more, so their flue gas temperature is cooler. Thus, more creosote is able to condense on the surface of the flue. So, saying that "fir builds up more creosote than oak" just isn't true! It is a misunderstanding to think that it's the pitch in wood which causes creosote. It's not the pitch that is the problem, it's the water IN the pitch. Once the water in the wood has evaporated, that pitch becomes high octane fuel! When dry, softwoods burn extremely hot!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[tubbynet posted : have burned pine for many years (not so much anymore, i'm someplace warm now) in addition to juniper, aspen, doug fir, and spruce.  i've never had any issue with pine (specifically pinon, as that is what grew at the elevation i lived at).  it wasn't my wood of choice, but would work well in a pinch, especially if i needed to heat my woodstove fast (i actually did a lot of cooking on my woodstove in colder weather).<br>in the length of time that i lived at that house (~15 years) we never had the chimney cleaned.  a little trick that i learned was to burn a very clean wood (usually aspen)for a week straight week at the beginning and end of the woodburning season.  this ensured that the creosote wouldn't stay in place from season to season.  granted, we did have a very well built chimney, but never had a fire.<br><br>had the chimney cleaned this summer.  guy who came out to clean it couldn't believe that we hadn't had it cleaned in nearly 20 years.  good fireplace management is key.<br><br>q.<br><small>--<br>those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it...</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Warzau posted : If you read the OP and the responses we don't need to edumacated. We said there is no danger to using pine. We mostly said don't use green pine as  signmeuptoo <A HREF="/useremail/u/520600"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>said <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/520600" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=520600');">signmeuptoo</a>:</small><br><br>My roomate seems to think it would be a good idea to use the wood from the felled pine tree to heat the house.  I told him that I believe it would be quite hazardous to burn pine of any type due to build up in the chimney from it.  Besides that, the tree was not dead when it was felled and as such, the wood is green. </div> We all said pine is fine as long as it's seasoned, not green.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[cowboyandy posted : I would like to take a second to educate everyone on this topic that i discovered after a google search.<br><br>there is absolutly no more danger to burning seasoned pine then there is burning seasoned oak, maple, hickory or anything else.<br><br>All species of wood have the same btu content by weight, the only variable being density. Pine produces no more creosote than any other wood, period.<br><br>Seasoned pine will produce the exact same amount as seasoned oak. The keyword being seasoned. <br><br>In many areas of the country including the Rockies, Alaska, Pacific Northwest, etc that is all that is avalible in some areas. I know people who heat exclusivly with pine who have NEVER had a chimney fire. Some of them clean their chimney less than me, and I burn maple, hickory, etc.<br><br>Yes, pine will pop more and throw sparks. So will other species of wood, even hardwood.<br><br>If you are burning wood to heat your house, I strongly urge you to do as much research as possible.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Vtblues posted : You mean like chunks of burning creosote shooting 20 feet above the chimney, landing on your roof and catching that on fire too?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bkjohnson posted : Agreed. You really have to see a full bore chimney fire to appreciate how dangerous they are.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1133848" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1133848');">PolarBear03</a>:</small><br><br>Just make sure you take all your wi-fi devices far far away first ;)  Routers that normally xmit 50 or so mW of power REALLY complain when they get hit with 1000W of power :D <br> </div>Think of it as a brute force denial of service attack.<br><br> :)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Vtblues posted : Burning softwood in a fireplace is not the same as burning it in a woodstove. The woodstove is much more airtight leading to a slower burning, longer lasting and more efficient use of your wood. Being slower burning though will cause creosote to build up quickly using softwoods. The reason it's OK to use them as kindling is that your dampeners are wide open when starting the fire allowing maximum airflow.  <br><small>--<br>I'm folding and crunching to try to help prevent stories like &raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r19907412-Update-on-my-son-who-has-cancer">Update on my son who has cancer</A><br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[peterponds posted : Burning pine in a fireplace will cause creosote build up in our chimney, and lead to a chimney fire, even if you clean the chimney once a year. Chimney fire is one of the scariest things I've lived through, the walls near the chimney get so hot you can't touch them. it's not worth risking your house, your stuff, your life, family, etc. a couple of pieces of seasoned pine(dried a year) won't hurt anything, but don't use it extensively. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[tempnexus posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by tmh :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/520600" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=520600');">signmeuptoo</a>:</small><br><br>What frustrates me is that my roomate is sometimes a Mr. Knowitall even when he doesn't know what he is talking about.  For instance:  I am a LASER technologist among other things, and went to college for it, but he will argue about that topic with me even though he has little college and no LASER training.<br><br>He laughed at me when I told him it would cause creosote build up a few weeks ago, he made a face at me and got mad.  Sometimes it is really hard living here, heh.<br> </div>You should remember the crede of the LASER technologist: never get frustrated just because someone makes a face at you and gets mad.  <br><br>Instead, just use that 1KW X-ray LASER you're keeping under the bed and burn out his gonads when he's in the shower.<br><br>tmh<br> </div>Neah...just bypass the safety system in the microwave, bring it to the bathroom and turn it on when he is in the shower...I like my friends well done.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[tempnexus posted : Damn after reading this I realized that I might be a pine..I am soft, sappy, and hot...but can only last a minute.<br><br>But yeah wood stove (if I picture it correctly) is the covered metal piece thing with  no real opennings but the chimney (and the flap to add more wood).  That should be safe from sparks, but you will have to clean the flume more often.<br>Fire place on the other hand is more dangerous since pine sparks like a firecracker and if your screen is a chainlink gate then some of it might bypass the three foot fireprooffloor and hit the carpet...it did at my house.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/520600" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=520600');">signmeuptoo</a>:</small><br><br>What frustrates me is that my roomate is sometimes a Mr. Knowitall even when he doesn't know what he is talking about.  For instance:  I am a LASER technologist among other things, and went to college for it, but he will argue about that topic with me even though he has little college and no LASER training.<br><br>He laughed at me when I told him it would cause creosote build up a few weeks ago, he made a face at me and got mad.  Sometimes it is really hard living here, heh.<br> </div>You should remember the crede of the LASER technologist: never get frustrated just because someone makes a face at you and gets mad.  <br><br>Instead, just use that 1KW X-ray LASER you're keeping under the bed and burn out his gonads when he's in the shower.<br><br>tmh]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[CatSnak posted : I grew up using fire places and we used to cut our own firewood up in southern Oregon. We usually used douglas fir and Pine as our primiary wood. Pine is perfectly safe to burn. Your tree however isn't until it's properly seasoned and cut. In essance you are both right. No reason why you can't take the tree split it up to proper size and store for next season.<br><small>--<br>Founding member, 2002-2003, 2005-2006 Director of Communications, 2004-2005 Secretary for the <A HREF="http://www.crunchenstein.org">Crunchenstein Project</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[quatrix posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/520600" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=520600');">signmeuptoo</a>:</small><br><br>He laughed at me when I told him it would cause creosote build up a few weeks ago, he made a face at me and got mad.  Sometimes it is really hard living here, heh.</div>You weren't sure either.  Otherwise you wouldn't have asked the question here, unless you're just ranting.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[yuutomo posted : here in Montana, that's the major wood that is available to burn in firplaces, you have to cut it up and let it dry fully out to use it. if the chimmney has never been cleaned have it cleaned immediately and properly before use and if you use pine, during the winter have it checked and cleaned as needed.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Doctor Olds posted : Fireplace & Stove Safety, Burn Smart<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.oregonfireplaces.com/StoveStafety.htm" >www.oregonfireplaces.com/StoveStafety.htm</A><br> <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>Think "Fire Prevention"<br><br>   1. Clear the area around the fireplace and chimney<br>   2. Always use a fireplace screen<br>   3. Never overload the fireplace<br>   4. Keep a fire extinguisher on hand<br>   5. When building a fire, place logs at the rear<br>   6. Never leave fire unattended<br>   7. Keep wood stacked, covered, and out-of-doors<br>   8. Have your fireplace inspected annually<br><br>  &#9;Think "Clean"<br><br>   1. Have your fireplace inspected and cleaned annually<br>   2. Choose the right fuel<br>   3. Use seasoned wood<br>   4. Burn smartly<br>   5. Minimize creosote buildup<br>   6. Make a fire that fits your fireplace<br>   7. Keep your fireplace in good working condition<br>   8. Read and follow the label when using firelogs<br>   9. If your fireplace is equipped with glass doors, leave them open while burning a firelog<br><hr></blockquote><br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-gt/">What&#146;s the point of owning a supercar if you can&#146;t scare yourself stupid from time to time?</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by manofsnow :</small><br><br>  Get an oil burner.....and a new room mate.<br> </div>Get the new room mate!!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[ChiTang posted : For all its worth, a whole pine tree truck, $50.00 worth for heating bill at best. is it worth it?<br><small>--<br><b>I used to be indecisive, now I am not sure.</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[RR Conductor posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1546063" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1546063');">toplevelpot</a>:</small><br><br>which brings up how long's it been since your chimney's been cleaned. Are you owning the house, or renting? The last places I lived that had fireplaces were both apts. and you NEVER got yer chimney sweeped (caveats: I lived in Cali all me life, and I'd assume the complex mgrs. being maybe similar, would be uninformed as I was at the time; in califonia fireplaces are more status/option than utilitarian unless yer high elevation).<br> </div>Get outside the cities into rural areas of CA like here in Mendocino County in NorCal, and wood and pellet stoves are extensively used.<br><small>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.amtrak.com" >www.amtrak.com</A><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.amtrakcalifornia.com" >www.amtrakcalifornia.com</A><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.metrolinktrains.com" >www.metrolinktrains.com</A><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.narprail.org" >www.narprail.org</A><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.freighrailworks.org" >www.freighrailworks.org</A><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.up.com" >www.up.com</A><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.bnsf.com" >www.bnsf.com</A><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.northcoastrailroad.org" >www.northcoastrailroad.org</A><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.sonomamarintrain.org" >www.sonomamarintrain.org</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[RR Conductor posted : You might consider wood pellet stoves too, they burn VERY clean, hot and are a lot easier to use and maintain.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.woodpelletstoves.net/" >www.woodpelletstoves.net/</A><br><br>They produce little smoke, which is a plus, especially in the winter with the inversion layers which can trap smoke like fog in low lying areas and valleys.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : <br><br>  Get an oil burner.....and a new room mate.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[toplevelpot posted : which brings up how long's it been since your chimney's been cleaned. Are you owning the house, or renting? The last places I lived that had fireplaces were both apts. and you NEVER got yer chimney sweeped (caveats: I lived in Cali all me life, and I'd assume the complex mgrs. being maybe similar, would be uninformed as I was at the time; in califonia fireplaces are more status/option than utilitarian unless yer high elevation).<br><small>--<br>"Sir, I protest! I am not a merry man!"</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[mr_slick posted : pine is okay to burn.<br><br>green wood is not okay to burn.<br><br>as long as you have your chimney inspected and cleaned annually there is nothing to worry about.... unless you burn green wood :hmm:]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[fatness posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/198601" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=198601');">jack b</a>:</small><br><br>Most pine varieties are a sappy, soft wood. It burns fast and hot. I would not burn it alone and absolutely not right away. You can burn a small piece or two to get the fire started and mix some in with other hardwood to burn only after it sat and seasoned for a long time (like 18 months).<br> </div>This is good advice. I heated primarily with wood for 10-15 years, and pine is excellent for kindling, bad for mass burning (due to creosote and burning quickly). <br><br>If you're concerned about creosote buildup, let the fire really burn hot for an hour or so every couple days. Creosote deposits in chimneys and stovepipes will get solid and crack and fall, which is preferable to staying in place, building up, and catching fire.<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://www.istapledmycat.com/pics/dickcream/whenimoveyoumove.swf">relax</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Stumbles posted : From the sounds of it, the wood is really to green yet to burn, especially with pine. Best to let it set for a year or so. After that, depending on the type of stove you have, I would have no problem using it.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[eX_NihiLo posted : Tell him to call any chimney sweep and he'll be told the same thing.   Pines build up creosote.   Will your chimney be a fire hazard after burning a cord of pine?  No, but it will accelerate how often you need to clean it to prevent it from being one.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[KrK posted : Pine wood is sappy and burns hot.  It can lead to cresote buildup in your chimney which can increase the chances of a chimney fire.<br><br>Having said that,  you can burn the pine a little bit at a time as long as you're using mostly good hardwood.  The pine can be used as kindling, etc<br><small>--<br>"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini<br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Radio Active posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/520600" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=520600');">signmeuptoo</a>:</small><br><br>What frustrates me is that my roomate is sometimes a Mr. Knowitall even when he doesn't know what he is talking about.  He laughed at me when I told him it would cause creosote build up a few weeks ago, he made a face at me and got mad.  Sometimes it is really hard living here, heh.<br> </div>Tell him STFU and if he wants to pay for the wood, he may do so. But for safe heat, you should stand up and tell him what is what. Pine is sappy and soft. It has veins of sap that will not only create creosote in the flue but can also explode deposits of pitch which could throw embers out of the fireplace and start a fire in the living room. :o Of course, that's only if there is no screen in front of the fireplace.  <br><br>Unseasoned (green)pine is worse. Stay away from it for at least one year. It won't burn properly. And, it's a bitch to split.    <br><br>Or you could arrange for other living arrangements.  ;)<br><small>--<br>I wonder if computers laugh at us behind our backs?<br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[tschmidt posted : There are two issues with burning Pine, it is less dense then hardwoods and it has a lot of Resin.<br><br>Assuming it is well seasoned (which yours is not) burning Pine is not a problem but you need to make sure fire does not get too hot or too cool. Because Pine is not very dense it tends to burn very hot, but only for a short period of time. On the other hand if fire is not hot enough volatiles will vaporize rather then burn in the stove. If chimney cools gas enough vapor condenses forming Creosote creating a potential fire hazard. Chimmney fires are to be avoided at all cost - that can be truely harrowing experiences. <br><br>I'd suggest cutting felled tree to stove length and split it. Store outside under a tarp until next year. Use a little at a time next year. Hat to waste free wood just be careful. <br><br>/tom ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Warzau posted : Soft small woods to start, then hard to keep it going. Wait did I say that. Seriously like other said softwoods will build up creosote.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Sundog posted : I lived in Montana for quite a few years heating my homes with a wood stove. I preferred Yellow Pine (Ponderosa Pine) for my fires as it started fast. I will agree that burning pine can produce more creosote buildup versus burning hard woods, but regular cleaning the flue is where it's at. I never a had a problem with pine. I also used Douglas Fir, Larch, and Spruce as those were the predominant trees up there, but I preferred Ponderosa. Those other woods I mentioned are more sappy then pine.<br><br>Pine also makes excellent kindling as it starts fast. <br><br>I say experiment and find out whether you like it.  <br><br>I know there are different varieties of pine, so YMMV. <br><br>Save yourself some bucks, and use the wood.<br><br>Edit: I see that you mentioned it was still green. ALWAYS use seasoned wood.<br><small>--<br>Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me. <br>We pillage, we plunder, we rifle, and loot, <br>Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho. <br>We kidnap and ravage and don't give a hoot, <br>Drink up me 'earties, yo ho.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Vtblues posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/198601" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=198601');">jack b</a>:</small><br><br>Most pine varieties are a sappy, soft wood. It burns fast and hot. I would not burn it alone and absolutely not right away. You can burn a small piece or two to get the fire started and mix some in with other hardwood to burn only after it sat and seasoned for a long time (like 18 months).<br> </div>Dead on, use for kindling <br><small>--<br>I'm folding and crunching to try to help prevent stories like &raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r19907412-Update-on-my-son-who-has-cancer">Update on my son who has cancer</A><br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[signmeuptoo posted : What frustrates me is that my roomate is sometimes a Mr. Knowitall even when he doesn't know what he is talking about.  For instance:  I am a LASER technologist among other things, and went to college for it, but he will argue about that topic with me even though he has little college and no LASER training.<br><br>He laughed at me when I told him it would cause creosote build up a few weeks ago, he made a face at me and got mad.  Sometimes it is really hard living here, heh.<br><small>--<br>Please: If you are lucky and can afford a good computer or so, join Teams Helix and Discovery and do the right thing: Help fight Cancer and diseases. Vote 4 Obama/Biden: Don't be a dumb religious-cattle conservative like I used to be! Really look at facts</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[jack b posted : Most pine varieties are a sappy, soft wood. It burns fast and hot. I would not burn it alone and absolutely not right away. You can burn a small piece or two to get the fire started and mix some in with other hardwood to burn only after it sat and seasoned for a long time (like 18 months).<br><small>--<br><i>~Help Find a Cure for Cancer~<br> ~Proud Member of <A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/disco">Team Discovery</a> ~</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Vtblues posted : It is unsafe as it will build up too much creosote and increase the risk of a chimney fire. Use hardwood, oak, maple, birch, ash, black cherry, beech. Those are ones that come to mind and grow around me.<br><small>--<br>I'm folding and crunching to try to help prevent stories like &raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r19907412-Update-on-my-son-who-has-cancer">Update on my son who has cancer</A><br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[signmeuptoo posted : I have had a small argument with roomate.  We have a wood stove and use IT to heat the house with.  Earlier this year the utility company came here and cut down a tree for us, it was some sort of sticky pine tree, a huge one.<br><br>My roomate seems to think it would be a good idea to use the wood from the felled pine tree to heat the house.  I told him that I believe it would be quite hazardous to burn pine of any type due to build up in the chimney from it.  Besides that, the tree was not dead when it was felled and as such, the wood is green.<br><br>Am I right?  If I am, what types of wood ARE bad to use?  If I am wrong, can you burn just anything?<br><br>Note, I did sweep the chimney over the springtime this year.<br><small>--<br>Please: If you are lucky and can afford a good computer or so, join Teams Helix and Discovery and do the right thing: Help fight Cancer and diseases. Vote 4 Obama/Biden: Don't be a dumb religious-cattle conservative like I used to be! Really look at facts</small>]]></description>
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