MalibuMaxx
join:2007-02-06
Chesterton, IN
 ·Comcast
|  You have got to be kidding me... right?
Wow well if they didn't want to ruin OTA T.V. if it passes they will shoot it down somehow. They really want to kill OTA broadcasts don't they?
This is insanity with a passion. Digital T.V. OTA broadcasts are so touchy already. Once again Wi-max is our ticket to any kind of public broadband system not a spectrum already in use. |
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bender
Bite my shiny metal ass
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join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL
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1 edit | i have no problems with digital OTA tv
i did have to go through a few antennas but once i had the right antenna its flawless. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to MalibuMaxx
said by MalibuMaxx  :Wow well if they didn't want to ruin OTA T.V. if it passes they will shoot it down somehow. They really want to kill OTA broadcasts don't they? This is insanity with a passion. Digital T.V. OTA broadcasts are so touchy already. Once again Wi-max is our ticket to any kind of public broadband system not a spectrum already in use. Yeah right. Wi-max might reach areas where some of my friends live in about 2025. And they only live a few miles outside of town. |
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n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
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| reply to bender
said by bender :i have no problems with digital OTA tv i did have to go through a few antennas but once i had the right antenna its flawless. Me neither but once a neighbor purchases one of these whitespace devices and it malfunctions, you can kiss OTA goodbye.
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MrMoody
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Smithfield, NC
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| reply to BF69
It never ceases to amaze me how many people think Microsoft and Google are going to spend huge money building WSD towers everywhere, especially in the middle of nowhere. News flash: they aren't. NONE of you clamoring for this because you don't have broadband will EVER see a WSD tower in range. WiMAX WILL spread, it just won't happen this week.
The WIA, despite what they're saying to get approval, has NO interest in providing rural internet. They want to provide lucrative PORTABLE service in CITIES.
Name any specific rural spot you're interested to see get broadband. I'll bet you $100 right now WiMax or a wired service reaches it before WSD broadband does.
Now give specs of what you would consider minimum broadband internet including speed, cap and acceptable content/protocol restrictions. I'll bet you another $100 no WSD tower that's been in operation more than a month will be able to reliably meet that spec. Payout 1 year after the first tower provides internet.
My personal TV is safe from WSD internet because there's cable and DSL broadband available here and I'm not on a through road to have mobile devices going by all the time.
But that only holds until they start selling WSD WAPs and people discover the range they can get with them.
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Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA
| said by MrMoody :The WIA, despite what they're saying to get approval, has NO interest in providing rural internet. They want to provide lucrative PORTABLE service in CITIES. Absolutely, in fact fixed nominally licensed rural white space devices could have been approved before this without opposition from broadcasters if they hadn't been linked to unlicensed mobile devices designed for use in congested urban areas. The worst part is the white space devices can't possibly work successfully in some of the most RF congested urban areas (fewest white spaces available and greatest demand) unless broadcast television as we know it disappears. Why doesn't the WIA ever bother to count the licensed Class A and low power TV stations? |
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bender
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join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL
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| reply to n2jtx
said by n2jtx Me neither but once a neighbor purchases one of these whitespace devices and it malfunctions, you can kiss OTA goodbye.
[/BQUOTE :really? why is that? i thought that Digital OTA was in different spectrum than analog OTA. |
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MrMoody
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join:2002-09-03
Smithfield, NC
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| said by bender :really? why is that? i thought that Digital OTA was in different spectrum than analog OTA. Nope. They were assigned new channels in the traditional analog TV bands. Many are in UHF 52-69 which was recently auctioned off to other services. As of Feb, they will have to move down to lower channels and drop their analog transmission. Some (not all) will move the digital signal to where their analog was. Others are going to some other unoccupied channel between 5 and 51 (mostly near the top of that range).
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anon12
@direcpc.com
| reply to MrMoody
said by MrMoody :It never ceases to amaze me how many people think Microsoft and Google are going to spend huge money building WSD towers everywhere, especially in the middle of nowhere. News flash: they aren't. NONE of you clamoring for this because you don't have broadband will EVER see a WSD tower in range. WiMAX WILL spread, it just won't happen this week. The WIA, despite what they're saying to get approval, has NO interest in providing rural internet. They want to provide lucrative PORTABLE service in CITIES. Name any specific rural spot you're interested to see get broadband. I'll bet you $100 right now WiMax or a wired service reaches it before WSD broadband does. Now give specs of what you would consider minimum broadband internet including speed, cap and acceptable content/protocol restrictions. I'll bet you another $100 no WSD tower that's been in operation more than a month will be able to reliably meet that spec. Payout 1 year after the first tower provides internet. My personal TV is safe from WSD internet because there's cable and DSL broadband available here and I'm not on a through road to have mobile devices going by all the time. But that only holds until they start selling WSD WAPs and people discover the range they can get with them. we will just have to wait and see wont we.I bet i don't know how you are going to spend your money either now do i,as you don't know how they are going to spend theirs.If they just put towers near other cell towers in my area then i will be able to get it
It never ceases to amaze me as to how you have to shoot down new tech.I mean let the people hope they will someday be able to get broadband.I know people like you have tried to shoot down everything from pots to evdo saying that it would not work,or company's would not deploy in their area,but you know what i live in the sticks and i can use a cell phone,and evdo,but choose not to use it because of 5 gig cap,and if white-space has a small cap i wont use it either |
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MrMoody
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Smithfield, NC
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| said by anon12 :
we will just have to wait and see wont we. No, I don't want to see free TV ruined, which is what will happen.
i can use a cell phone,and evdo,but choose not to use it because of 5 gig cap,and if white-space has a small cap i wont use it either. It WILL have a low cap or other severe limits, it MUST due to bandwidth limitation. It will have less bandwidth available per customer than EVDO does. If you can get EVDO, you don't need WSDs. Beg for WiMax instead, it's better than either one and you'll get it faster. Don't destroy everyone's free TV just to get another, lamer EVDO.
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anon12
@direcpc.com
| said by MrMoody :said by anon12 :
we will just have to wait and see wont we. No, I don't want to see free TV ruined, which is what will happen. i can use a cell phone,and evdo,but choose not to use it because of 5 gig cap,and if white-space has a small cap i wont use it either. It WILL have a low cap or other severe limits, it MUST due to bandwidth limitation. It will have less bandwidth available per customer than EVDO does. If you can get EVDO, you don't need WSDs. Beg for WiMax instead, it's better than either one and you'll get it faster. Don't destroy everyone's free TV just to get another, lamer EVDO. OH i would love to see wimax in my area,but that's not going to happen either.i really don't care if it has a small cap if its cheap and don't charge overage prices that's the main thing to me.
I cant pay 60.00 a month for internet then have to worry about paying extra for going over allotted bandwidth.I just want a decent priced connection,and decent speed.IM not convinced that wsd will destroy tv anyway maybe will cause some interference that can be worked out,but not destroy as you say |
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