anon219
@comcast.net
| um no?
How can at&t be comcast's biggest threat? at&t internet speed tiers just plain suck compared to comcast.
If verizon actually starts expanding their fios at a faster rate in areas that aren't declined as "ritzy ritz" they might have something.. |
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Artec
join:2003-02-23
Middletown, NJ
| said by anon219 :
How can at&t be comcast's biggest threat? at&t internet speed tiers just plain suck compared to comcast.
If verizon actually starts expanding their fios at a faster rate in areas that aren't declined as "ritzy ritz" they might have something..
Typical cable homer
There are places in NJ that are not ritzy ritz and in NYC also? FIOS has reached a lot of places you would go to at night. So before you speak get your facts correctly! |
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bender
Bite my shiny metal ass
Premium
join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL
clubs: | i also bet that that 10mbps plan that AT&T has is far more consistent than comcast HSI w/ powerboost. (wtf is powerboost anyways? what networking standard does that follow?) |
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CrazyT
join:2008-10-08
Irving, TX | reply to anon219
he's not saying u-verse is a superior service, he's just saying at&t has more overlap with comcast markets, thus a bigger impact |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000 | reply to anon219
Not everyone cares about speed. Many people care about price. |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
 ·Comcast
| said by battleop  :Not everyone cares about speed. Many people care about price. Truth!
But as things keep progressing, speed is becoming more and more important.
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000
| No, not really. I know a lot of people who simply don't care about watching videos online or downloading music. I helped a friend of my father-in-law fix the resolution on his monitor last weekend. He has a 512/128 connection he pays about 10 to 15 bucks a month for. He is as happy as he can be with that speed. He looks up a few things related to hunting, gets a few emails from the kids and that's about it. |
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jt7
@comcast.net | reply to anon219
they are a threat because right now people are will to pay a little less and get less speed for it. |
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jt4
@comcast.net | reply to battleop
of course you are talking about grandpa. a lot of old people are stubern about learning things like computer. they dont like to try new thing. my grand parents are the same way. |
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Cheese
Premium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
clubs:
| reply to battleop
said by battleop :No, not really. I know a lot of people who simply don't care about watching videos online or downloading music. I helped a friend of my father-in-law fix the resolution on his monitor last weekend. He has a 512/128 connection he pays about 10 to 15 bucks a month for. He is as happy as he can be with that speed. He looks up a few things related to hunting, gets a few emails from the kids and that's about it. Yes, really, more and more young people are relying on the internet and they are going to want the faster speeds. |
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koitsu
Premium
join:2002-07-16
Mountain View, CA
| reply to Artec
said by Artec :said by anon219 :
How can at&t be comcast's biggest threat? at&t internet speed tiers just plain suck compared to comcast.
If verizon actually starts expanding their fios at a faster rate in areas that aren't declined as "ritzy ritz" they might have something..
Typical cable homer There are places in NJ that are not ritzy ritz and in NYC also? FIOS has reached a lot of places you would go to at night. So before you speak get your facts correctly! The fact that Comcast considers AT&T their biggest threat is because Comcast *knows* they're not competing with FiOS. They can state they are, but they're not.
Let's get one thing straight here:
The instant Verizon starts offering FiOS in Silicon Valley, both AT&T and Comcast are going to sh** bricks, because they will easily lose half their customers.
But Verizon had better be fully prepared -- because if you screw up providing service in the Bay, a well-known trickle-down effect happens: your stock value drops sharply, while the number of customers telling others via forums and word-of-mouth "avoid Verizon, they suck!" quintuples. Verizon had better be ready to prepare for just how much bandwidth we chew up around here, and just how technically-savvy and picky we are.
This also explains why northern California is literally the *LAST* place to get broadband deployments (doesn't matter what company) -- the risks of being too hasty with deployments are VERY high here.
That said, I think the majority of us in the Bay are sick and tired of AT&T and Comcast -- both tremendously underpowered and atrociously overpriced. We don't have any decent alternatives (we can debate this some other time; 3rd-party DSL providers don't count, because they still have to rely on AT&T copper, and wireless/satellite doesn't count either due to high latency and crummy packet loss). A third choice (Verizon) would be a blessing. |
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Neyland
join:2003-02-04
USA
| reply to bender
As an ATT subscriber who's had both services, Comcast's consistancy in my area was the same as ATT. But being that a majority of ATT's DSL footprint gets a max of 3mb service, even if Comcast were do drop to half its advertised speeds it would be significantly faster than DSL.
Powerboost is where the network will give you additional bandwidth if availible for short burts (say 3 mins) when downloading. Something I really wish ATT would pick up on. |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000 | reply to jt4
I know guys in their 30s who don't give a crap about technology. So it's not just grandpa. |
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ninjatutle
Premium
join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | reply to anon219
Prices and caps, thats how ATT beats Comcast. ATT has lower prices and no capage. |
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pandora
Premium
join:2001-06-01
Outland
 ·ooma
·Future Nine Corpor..
·Comcast
|  AT&T bills are cryptic, and are designed to be very difficult to read. In my experience, AT&T provides a high cost for a service, then applies various discounts to get it to the advertised price.
Over time, the discounts vanish, or are reduced. The bill goes up. My $20 1.5m/384k DSL Express went from $20 which I was supposed to pay to $40 by the time I cancelled.
AT&T advertises low prices, but you have to regularly check your bill, and complain about loss or reduction of a discount. If you don't, it'll go up.
Comcast is much easier to read, and straight forward. I prefer my Comcast bill vs. my AT&T bill.
AT&T's DSL Express 1.5m / 384k service was the ONLY DSL service AT&T had for me over a very long period of time. Comcast offered 6m / 1m for $45 for 6 months, then up to about $65 after that. It IS more expensive, but also much faster. Comcast is currently in the process of rolling out 12m / 2m service.
What would you be happier with 1.5m /384k DSL for $40 service or 12m / 2m service for $65?
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Geminimind
Premium
join:2003-12-20
Sacramento, CA | reply to battleop
Thank you! price is all that matters with me. Left comcast because of price plus ATT gives cash Back  |
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Tsume
join:2004-02-23
Johnson City, TN
 ·Embarq
·ViaTalk
·Comcast
| reply to koitsu
said by koitsu :said by Artec :said by anon219 :
How can at&t be comcast's biggest threat? at&t internet speed tiers just plain suck compared to comcast.
If verizon actually starts expanding their fios at a faster rate in areas that aren't declined as "ritzy ritz" they might have something..
Typical cable homer There are places in NJ that are not ritzy ritz and in NYC also? FIOS has reached a lot of places you would go to at night. So before you speak get your facts correctly! The fact that Comcast considers AT&T their biggest threat is because Comcast *knows* they're not competing with FiOS. They can state they are, but they're not. Let's get one thing straight here: The instant Verizon starts offering FiOS in Silicon Valley, both AT&T and Comcast are going to sh** bricks, because they will easily lose half their customers. But Verizon had better be fully prepared -- because if you screw up providing service in the Bay, a well-known trickle-down effect happens: your stock value drops sharply, while the number of customers telling others via forums and word-of-mouth "avoid Verizon, they suck!" quintuples. Verizon had better be ready to prepare for just how much bandwidth we chew up around here, and just how technically-savvy and picky we are. This also explains why northern California is literally the *LAST* place to get broadband deployments (doesn't matter what company) -- the risks of being too hasty with deployments are VERY high here. That said, I think the majority of us in the Bay are sick and tired of AT&T and Comcast -- both tremendously underpowered and atrociously overpriced. We don't have any decent alternatives (we can debate this some other time; 3rd-party DSL providers don't count, because they still have to rely on AT&T copper, and wireless/satellite doesn't count either due to high latency and crummy packet loss). A third choice (Verizon) would be a blessing. I've been told firsthand by higherup Verizon FiOS marketing reps that the chances of them overlapping with AT&T's territory is 0, so it looks like you're stuck with AT&T and Comcast. |
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Rob2647
join:2008-08-12
Rochester, MI
·Vonage
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·Comcast
| reply to bender
said by bender :i also bet that that 10mbps plan that AT&T has is far more consistent than comcast HSI w/ powerboost. (wtf is powerboost anyways? what networking standard does that follow?) I'd have to second that. Comcast speeds from my expirence with their HSI the speeds are not as consistent as U-verse. |
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Rob2647
join:2008-08-12
Rochester, MI | reply to Geminimind
Me too. I'm getting more for the buck with U-verse than I did with Commiecast. |
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Ima
join:2003-10-23
Little Rock, AR
·AT&T Southwest
1 edit | reply to battleop
said by battleop :Not everyone cares about speed. Many people care about price. Wow, never thought I'd EVER see someone on this website actually understand why U-verse is such a great offering to people. |
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