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Artec

join:2003-02-23
Middletown, NJ

reply to anon219
Re: um no?

said by anon219 :

How can at&t be comcast's biggest threat? at&t internet speed tiers just plain suck compared to comcast.

If verizon actually starts expanding their fios at a faster rate in areas that aren't declined as "ritzy ritz" they might have something..
Typical cable homer
There are places in NJ that are not ritzy ritz and in NYC also? FIOS has reached a lot of places you would go to at night. So before you speak get your facts correctly!


bender
Bite my shiny metal ass
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join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL
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i also bet that that 10mbps plan that AT&T has is far more consistent than comcast HSI w/ powerboost. (wtf is powerboost anyways? what networking standard does that follow?)


koitsu
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join:2002-07-16
Mountain View, CA

reply to Artec
said by Artec See Profile :

said by anon219 :

How can at&t be comcast's biggest threat? at&t internet speed tiers just plain suck compared to comcast.

If verizon actually starts expanding their fios at a faster rate in areas that aren't declined as "ritzy ritz" they might have something..
Typical cable homer
There are places in NJ that are not ritzy ritz and in NYC also? FIOS has reached a lot of places you would go to at night. So before you speak get your facts correctly!
The fact that Comcast considers AT&T their biggest threat is because Comcast *knows* they're not competing with FiOS. They can state they are, but they're not.

Let's get one thing straight here:

The instant Verizon starts offering FiOS in Silicon Valley, both AT&T and Comcast are going to sh** bricks, because they will easily lose half their customers.

But Verizon had better be fully prepared -- because if you screw up providing service in the Bay, a well-known trickle-down effect happens: your stock value drops sharply, while the number of customers telling others via forums and word-of-mouth "avoid Verizon, they suck!" quintuples. Verizon had better be ready to prepare for just how much bandwidth we chew up around here, and just how technically-savvy and picky we are.

This also explains why northern California is literally the *LAST* place to get broadband deployments (doesn't matter what company) -- the risks of being too hasty with deployments are VERY high here.

That said, I think the majority of us in the Bay are sick and tired of AT&T and Comcast -- both tremendously underpowered and atrociously overpriced. We don't have any decent alternatives (we can debate this some other time; 3rd-party DSL providers don't count, because they still have to rely on AT&T copper, and wireless/satellite doesn't count either due to high latency and crummy packet loss). A third choice (Verizon) would be a blessing.


Neyland

join:2003-02-04
USA

reply to bender
As an ATT subscriber who's had both services, Comcast's consistancy in my area was the same as ATT. But being that a majority of ATT's DSL footprint gets a max of 3mb service, even if Comcast were do drop to half its advertised speeds it would be significantly faster than DSL.

Powerboost is where the network will give you additional bandwidth if availible for short burts (say 3 mins) when downloading. Something I really wish ATT would pick up on.


Tsume

join:2004-02-23
Johnson City, TN
·Embarq
·ViaTalk
·Comcast

reply to koitsu
said by koitsu See Profile :

said by Artec See Profile :

said by anon219 :

How can at&t be comcast's biggest threat? at&t internet speed tiers just plain suck compared to comcast.

If verizon actually starts expanding their fios at a faster rate in areas that aren't declined as "ritzy ritz" they might have something..
Typical cable homer
There are places in NJ that are not ritzy ritz and in NYC also? FIOS has reached a lot of places you would go to at night. So before you speak get your facts correctly!
The fact that Comcast considers AT&T their biggest threat is because Comcast *knows* they're not competing with FiOS. They can state they are, but they're not.

Let's get one thing straight here:

The instant Verizon starts offering FiOS in Silicon Valley, both AT&T and Comcast are going to sh** bricks, because they will easily lose half their customers.

But Verizon had better be fully prepared -- because if you screw up providing service in the Bay, a well-known trickle-down effect happens: your stock value drops sharply, while the number of customers telling others via forums and word-of-mouth "avoid Verizon, they suck!" quintuples. Verizon had better be ready to prepare for just how much bandwidth we chew up around here, and just how technically-savvy and picky we are.

This also explains why northern California is literally the *LAST* place to get broadband deployments (doesn't matter what company) -- the risks of being too hasty with deployments are VERY high here.

That said, I think the majority of us in the Bay are sick and tired of AT&T and Comcast -- both tremendously underpowered and atrociously overpriced. We don't have any decent alternatives (we can debate this some other time; 3rd-party DSL providers don't count, because they still have to rely on AT&T copper, and wireless/satellite doesn't count either due to high latency and crummy packet loss). A third choice (Verizon) would be a blessing.
I've been told firsthand by higherup Verizon FiOS marketing reps that the chances of them overlapping with AT&T's territory is 0, so it looks like you're stuck with AT&T and Comcast.

Rob2647

join:2008-08-12
Rochester, MI
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·Comcast

reply to bender
said by bender See Profile :

i also bet that that 10mbps plan that AT&T has is far more consistent than comcast HSI w/ powerboost. (wtf is powerboost anyways? what networking standard does that follow?)
I'd have to second that. Comcast speeds from my expirence with their HSI the speeds are not as consistent as U-verse.


morbo
Complete Your Transaction

join:2002-01-22
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reply to Tsume
verizon will end up buying at&t in 10-15 years.


fishmaster
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Rockford, IL
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reply to Neyland
Re: um no? ...Powerboost is a bust!!

That is what the marketing media wants you to believe 'powerboost' is. Yes it gives you a sudden jolt at first. but it is really nothing more than an elaborate 'caching' & 'compression' like scheme where Comcast can actually use less real bandwidth of ones (subscribers) supposed speed tier allotment and dupe the user into thinking they are actually getting something for nothing. But in reality it follows Comcast's philosophy of "pay more for Less". All it really is good for is to deliver ads faster to your browser for those that don't use a host file or ad-blocker & maybe an occasional small file download if the 'Protocol Agnostic' crap doesn't kick in and time you out so one has to restart their download a few times.
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ILpt4U
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join:2006-11-12
Lisle, IL
reply to Tsume
Re: um no?

Unless you are in some parts of the Dallas/Fort Worth Metro area, where Verizon has and is over-building FiOS where AT&T U-Verse already is.

I know of no other areas that this is happening, but Verizon and AT&T are overlapping in Texas


Neyland

join:2003-02-04
USA
reply to fishmaster
Re: um no? ...Powerboost is a bust!!

Really? My FTP transfers from my remote server which woulndn't be cached by Comcast seemed to prove otherwise. Seemed powerboost always delivered as advertised and my nonboosted speeds were also always as advertised.


Cheese
Premium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
clubs:

reply to fishmaster
said by fishmaster See Profile :

That is what the marketing media wants you to believe 'powerboost' is. Yes it gives you a sudden jolt at first. but it is really nothing more than an elaborate 'caching' & 'compression' like scheme where Comcast can actually use less real bandwidth of ones (subscribers) supposed speed tier allotment and dupe the user into thinking they are actually getting something for nothing. But in reality it follows Comcast's philosophy of "pay more for Less". All it really is good for is to deliver ads faster to your browser for those that don't use a host file or ad-blocker & maybe an occasional small file download if the 'Protocol Agnostic' crap doesn't kick in and time you out so one has to restart their download a few times.
Yep, so all those files I upload to my TF2 server and download from countless websites , and get powerboost, are just ads? Um....it's not only for ADS
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