http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21356021 en Sat, 11 Feb 2012 07:19:19 EDT Sat, 11 Feb 2012 07:19:19 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21360250 said by hottboiinnc:

if the Feds ever took away copyrighting they would be sued beyond what the gov't could ever pay.
The government doesn't have to take copyright away, they just have to make it a condition of copyright that bundling is illegal. The Constitution gives Congress the power to make laws that promote the arts ands sciences (such as copyright) but it doesn't preclude Congress from making bundling cable channels illegal. BTW the government can even make it impossible to win a lawsuit against the government.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21360250 Sat, 01 Nov 2008 14:19:12 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21358844 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21358844 Sat, 01 Nov 2008 02:48:29 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21358618
if the Feds ever took away copyrighting they would be sued beyond what the gov't could ever pay.

And just by taking the copyright away wouldn't make the bundling illegal.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21358618 Sat, 01 Nov 2008 00:40:03 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21358097 said by anon14 :

BS competition does not lower prices never has,everything goes up in price.The only thing that will lower prices is regulation from the government to keep all these jackassses from wasting money on failed projects such as BPL.wimax,and whitespace will be the latest failed projects.stop wasting money on this shit and spend it on tech that works,and wire the whole country.there prob. has been enough money wasted to already have that,and then work on higher speed for all
Good thing Verizon didn't listen to you there would be a hell of a lot of people without FIOS.
Hell most of the country would still be on Dial-up. :uhh:

If the companies don't try these new technologies then how are they to know if they are bad or not? I remember when there was bitching about the cost of Fiber years ago. It's too brittle it will break easy stay with copper it's proven reliable.
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So for the remaining 9 months of the year you're paying for a totally useless channel that does nothing but replay old games from 4 years ago and regurgitates the same sports stats that I can get online from a million other sources... the cost we pay for the time the channel is actually relevant is closer to $2.80/mo for the 3 months.

That's way too expensive for one football channel... and not worth passing on to all cable customers regardless if they're football fans or not.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21358026 Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:48:26 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21357942 said by Kearnstd:

the fact TV goes up and internet doesnt says something.Because VIDEO subs subsidize HSI via higher rates.
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It was just an example. I don't know what ESPN USED to charge...so I can't claim it has anything to do with a rate-hike. But the Big10 ransom is NEW...

That said, if Big10 was WORTH $1.00 then Espn is worth $50 ;-)
If ESPN and ESPN were moved to sports tier all you non sports customers would see a 10% rate reduction.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21357259 Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:55:15 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21356866 said by hottboiinnc:

and the government has what say so to the media companies that own the channels? NONE.
Untrue, the government has complete control over copyright law that all of the media companies depend on and the government can represent the people rather than corporations for a change and make bundling illegal anytime it wants to.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21356866 Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:25:19 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21356622 said by nasadude:

absolutely agree. but I would also like them to look at why an HD DVR rental would increase $2/mo. - I have the same box I had last year and there is absolutely no reason I can think of to justify an increase except comcast wants more money.
Ok here's two:

1. The content providers citing the increased use of DVRs taking away ad revenue since customers can record their shows and fast forward through commercials.

2. Comcast not wanting to implement the content provider-suggested technology that prevents the FF feature from working on certain channels in exchange for lower rates for their content.

Does Comcast want more money? Sure. Don't we all? They also do not want to make less money providing the same content the majority scream about if taken away.

Do you remember Viacom vs. Dish Network? Guess who won?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21356622 Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:33:43 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21356332 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21356332 Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:37:22 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21356303
That said, if Big10 was WORTH $1.00 then Espn is worth $50 ;-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21356303 Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:31:02 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21356245 said by ThrowDemsOut:

It is the iron control that the few major entertainment companies have on all forms of TV & Movies that keep these rates high. If the FCC wants to do something to bring down cable TV rates, that is where they should start.
absolutely agree. but I would also like them to look at why an HD DVR rental would increase $2/mo. - I have the same box I had last year and there is absolutely no reason I can think of to justify an increase except comcast wants more money.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21356245 Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:17:59 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21356229 said by beaups:

Agree. The content owners are the one's raping us and raising rates and dictating what tiers their channels fall on. BigTen and NFL networks come to mind. It'll get worse before it gets better.

I think the big problem in some of these cases IS the competition. hear me out....for example here in Columbus, Big10 network comes to town and wants ~$1.00/mo from EVERY subscriber on Time Warner's network. TW says no way (thankfully)...then WideOpenWest and other small guys see this as an opportunity and jump all over it advertising "Switch to us to get the Big10 network". TW is forced to cave in and ultimately those costs are passed on to us. The whole thing is a shame.
You do realize that Disney is charging nearly $5 for ESPN and ESPN2 yet you complain about 70 cents NFL Network wants.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21356229 Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:14:31 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21356207
I think the big problem in some of these cases IS the competition. hear me out....for example here in Columbus, Big10 network comes to town and wants ~$1.00/mo from EVERY subscriber on Time Warner's network. TW says no way (thankfully)...then WideOpenWest and other small guys see this as an opportunity and jump all over it advertising "Switch to us to get the Big10 network". TW is forced to cave in and ultimately those costs are passed on to us. The whole thing is a shame.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21356207 Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:09:50 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21356148 said by Kearnstd:

if you notice that even in areas where cable fights fios its strictly the TV rates that see constant climbs while data and digital phone hold steady. part of this is things like Disney wanting even more money per customer to carry ESPN(one of the most costly basic cable channels). the the providers certainly are not innocent in this matter, but the fact TV goes up and internet doesnt says something. comcast is doubling speed from 6 to 12 and it stays 42.95. so some blame does lay with the content conglomerates.
It is the iron control that the few major entertainment companies have on all forms of TV & Movies that keep these rates high. If the FCC wants to do something to bring down cable TV rates, that is where they should start.
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So what is going after Disney going to do? Not a damn thing except cost more money going to court when they're sued and the tax payers pay more.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-hit-the-content-owners-then-21356065 Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:42:27 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/hit-the-content-owners-then-21356021 --
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