 ztmike Mark for moderation Premium join:2001-08-02 Michigan City, IN
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1 edit | [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. I'm trying to make sense of this..why would Comcast up the 6/1 tier to 12/2 but then keep the 16/2 tier at $10 bucks more? The poll on here which I'm not surprised really shows 12/2 is clearly the winner: »Poll....With the new tiers which will you subscribe to?
I think Comcast should drop the 16/2 and replace that tier with 22/5 and keep it the same price.
I think they are going to lose alot of customers on the 16/2 tier, unless 12/2 doesn't become a business tier also. | |
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  nate1234
join:2008-08-21 Moorestown, NJ | Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. couldn't agree more. I wish they would increase my blast! to Ultra (16/2 to 22/5) or push it to like 18/3. | |
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  JSSAUCE Imac - MacBook Air Premium join:2001-12-04 Oak Park, IL clubs:
| What even make less sense is that the clearly stated published price for 22/5 is $62.95. Well I pay $69.95 for 16/2.
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Guess I will upgrade and pay less. -- Do You Want To Crunch? Come Join Team Seti | |
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  EG The wings of love Premium join:2006-11-18 Union, NJ | There may be a method to their madness ?  | |
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| Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. said by EG :There may be a method to their madness ? I guess they are trying to have consistent tiers and priceing. | |
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  paul8632
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  Rob In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA Premium join:2001-08-25 Kendall, FL
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| They should keep the 16/2 tier plan. Not because it makes sense, but because it gives the consumer an extra choice - and more choices is better than less choices.
Plus, it helps them compete in some markets. -- CheckSite.us | YourIP.US | |
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 |  voip_user
join:2006-06-14 Middletown, CT
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| Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. said by Rob :They should keep the 16/2 tier plan. Not because it makes sense, but because it gives the consumer an extra choice - and more choices is better than less choices. Plus, it helps them compete in some markets. I hope they also add 1/1, 4/1, 6/2, 8/2 for the same price as 12/2, it would give the consumer even more choices | |
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| Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. said by voip_user :I hope they also add 1/1, 4/1, 6/2, 8/2 for the same price as 12/2, it would give the consumer even more choices Yah, they could market those slower packages as DSL over Digital Voice.  | |
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  tshirt Premium,MVM join:2004-07-11 Snohomish, WA
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| said by ztmike :I think they are going to lose alot of customers on the 16/2 tier, unless 12/2 doesn't become a business tier also. Which might be the end goal. This isn't available everywhere yet, so they may need to keep/grandfather existing tiers, until they can offer 12/2 or 22/5 everywhere. | |
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 |   ztmike Mark for moderation Premium join:2001-08-02 Michigan City, IN
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| Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. said by tshirt :said by ztmike :I think they are going to lose alot of customers on the 16/2 tier, unless 12/2 doesn't become a business tier also. Which might be the end goal. This isn't available everywhere yet, so they may need to keep/grandfather existing tiers, until they can offer 12/2 or 22/5 everywhere. I know its not available everywhere and won't be for a year or more still..its not even here yet where I am..
BUT I'm talking about the places that already have the new tiers. | |
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2 edits | Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. said by pandora :People were happy to pay an extra $10 for an extra 2MB of download speed. Now they pay the same for twice as much and suddenly it isn't good enough. Many/most people were paying $10 extra for double the upload speed. Now they're paying $10 extra for... not much. Already downgraded from 16/2 to 12/2 here, couldn't be happier. -- Why did Obama sue Citibank under the CRA to force it to make bad loans? | |
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1 edit | said by Cabal :said by pandora :People were happy to pay an extra $10 for an extra 2MB of download speed. Now they pay the same for twice as much and suddenly it isn't good enough. Many/most people were paying $10 extra for double the upload speed. Now they're paying $10 extra for... not much. Already downgraded from 16/2 to 12/2 here, couldn't be happier. That is all I wanted when I first started paying the $10 extra - back when it(upload) was 384k vs 256k.
When 6/1 gets kicked to 12/2, I'll be dropping back as well. -- Think outside the Fox... Opera | |
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| Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. said by dadkins :When 6/1 gets kicked to 12/2, I'll be dropping back as well. Doin' the same thing here daddio !  | |
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| Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. said by EG :said by dadkins :When 6/1 gets kicked to 12/2, I'll be dropping back as well. Doin' the same thing here daddio ! I can save the $10 per month for a D3 modem - if they ever sell them. -- Think outside the Fox... Opera | |
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| Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. said by dadkins :I can save the $10 per month for a D3 modem - if they ever sell them. That's a great idea bud !!  | |
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  comcastuser230
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| said by ztmike :I'm trying to make sense of this..why would Comcast up the 6/1 tier to 12/2 but then keep the 16/2 tier at $10 bucks more? The poll on here which I'm not surprised really shows 12/2 is clearly the winner: » Poll....With the new tiers which will you subscribe to?I think Comcast should drop the 16/2 and replace that tier with 22/5 and keep it the same price. I think they are going to lose alot of customers on the 16/2 tier, unless 12/2 doesn't become a business tier also. The tier would be a great alternative to have if the upload was increase to 3Mbps.
16/3Mbps would be a great alternative in between the 12 and the 22 tiers. The only problem I see with it is that the download is really not much of an incentive with blast over the 12 mbps tier. Most people that choose the higher tiers do not just choose it base on download. I know I would be sufficiently happy with 12Mbps for all my downloading needs. However, extra upload is always great for my gaming and other things which is why I was on a higher tier for a while. | |
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| 16/2 is the highest they go on your current modem. to go for 22 and 50 tiers you have to rent their DOCSIS3 Cisco modem(atleast until moto puts the 6120 in a store near you). -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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 |   delt4 17 years ... still waiting Premium join:2000-07-13 Pittsburgh, PA
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| Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. said by Kearnstd :16/2 is the highest they go on your current modem. to go for 22 and 50 tiers you have to rent their DOCSIS3 Cisco modem(atleast until moto puts the 6120 in a store near you). Does this mean that it may be awhile little longer before Comcast upgrades their speeds again, assuming that there aren't as many DOCSIS3 modems out there as the current ones? I mean if speeds were upgraded farther than 16/2, everyone would have to get another modem from Comcast. | |
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join:2004-01-17 Urbana, IL
| said by Kearnstd :16/2 is the highest they go on your current modem. to go for 22 and 50 tiers you have to rent their DOCSIS3 Cisco modem(atleast until moto puts the 6120 in a store near you). how the hell do you figlure that?
most docsis1.1 builds will do 4-6 up and 20-30 down. Here in former insight land we are docsis 2.0 and it will do up to 10 up I have seen the speed tests before comcrap took over the area | |
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| said by GLIMMER :said by Kearnstd :16/2 is the highest they go on your current modem. to go for 22 and 50 tiers you have to rent their DOCSIS3 Cisco modem(atleast until moto puts the 6120 in a store near you). how the hell do you figlure that? most docsis1.1 builds will do 4-6 up and 20-30 down. Here in former insight land we are docsis 2.0 and it will do up to 10 up I have seen the speed tests before comcrap took over the area because its company policy for the 22/5 and up tiers. -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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 timbo4656
join:2005-03-09 San Ramon, CA 2 edits | can someone clarify-
I have the 6mb line with 12mb speed boost. Is comcast saying their upping the 6mb plan to 12mb? or are they saying its 12mb with speed boost- so essentially i would already be on the "12mb" tier? | |
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 |   EG The wings of love Premium join:2006-11-18 Union, NJ
2 edits | Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. The Powerboost feature, and their provisioned speed tiers are two different things.
You are not "already on the 12mb tier" just because you are seeing the effects of their Powerboost feature.
When you are upgraded to the 12/2 tier, you should still see the short lived effects of the Powerboost feature to double or more of those figures. | |
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join:2005-03-09 San Ramon, CA 1 edit | Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. yea thats what i thought. thanks for the quick reply!
is there a a thread here that would tell me when this comes into affect in my market? that is when comcast upgrades the 6mb tier to 12mb. | |
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 AVonGauss Premium,MVM join:2007-11-01 Boynton Beach, FL | I don't know, it almost sounds like the consensus on this topic is that they raised the 6/1 tier higher than they needed...  | |
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join:2004-11-09 Fairfield, PA | Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. so when can we see this addiotional speeds. i hear today but havent seen any changes in configurations over the weekend yet. | |
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 |   EG The wings of love Premium join:2006-11-18 Union, NJ
| said by AVonGauss :I don't know, it almost sounds like the consensus on this topic is that they raised the 6/1 tier higher than they needed... SHHHHUSH ..  | |
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3 edits | Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. EG, I'm just sayin'... It sounds like people are confused about the new tiers, maybe if it was 10/1 instead of 12/2 it would be more balanced and people would be more enthusiastic about the change... 
P.S. Did I mention that I'm glad after this post that this board does not work on a karma system? I think I might get voted off the island if it did...  | |
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| Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. said by AVonGauss :EG, I'm just sayin'... It sounds like people are confused about the change, maybe if it was 10/1 instead of 12/2 it would be more balanced and people would be more enthusiastic about the change... I'm agreein' with ya bud !  | |
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join:2002-06-28 Lake Worth, FL
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1 edit | Hi,
AS a test of actual download pipe size/speed, I use the 100MB broadband download test on www.testmy.net With Powerboost working as well as it does on smaller downloads, you need a beefy test to see a more real-world number. Typically I am averaging about 10.5 Mbps according to their test.
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 matthew330ci
join:2005-02-10 | are you guys getting charged a ridiculous fee to change your level of service? i was told there would be some fee (I forget the amount) if I ever change my level of service. | |
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2 edits | said by matthew330ci :are you guys getting charged a ridiculous fee to change your level of service? i was told there would be some fee (I forget the amount) if I ever change my level of service. $1.99 Change Of Service Charge... -- Think outside the Fox... Opera | |
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 u3912974
join:2007-07-31 San Francisco, CA
| perhpas it's a bit of: supply and demand difference of speeds in competing markets future growth and past remainders
I think they have the right to offer what they want and we have the opportunity to purchase or decline purchase of said product | |
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 jacktaw
join:2003-01-03 Derry, NH 1 edit | Just downgraded my 16/2 to the 12/2.
Told the rep that if they just upgraded the upstream to 5 MBit/s then I'd keep it.
Wonder how Comcast likes losing $10/month with all these people?!
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  mgmgmg
join:2002-09-08 Minneapolis, MN 2 edits | I also Just downgraded my 16/2 to the 12/2.
$10/month Extra?! WOW | |
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 AVonGauss Premium,MVM join:2007-11-01 Boynton Beach, FL
| FWIW, in another post I indicated it looked my upload PowerBoost had been gone for about a week and 1/2 now. I'm not entirely sure that is true, the speed test sites (SpeedTest, SpeakEasy and Comcast) all seem to indicate this consistently, but doing a scp upload to a server seems to indicate otherwise. Something definitely changed, just not sure at this point without more investigation as to what the underlying change is. The reason I'm mentioning it is because of my previous post regarding recent "config file" changes. | |
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  ztmike Mark for moderation Premium join:2001-08-02 Michigan City, IN | For those on the new tier already..(12/2) what is the provisioned upload rate? | |
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