Topic 'Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously..' in forum 'Comcast HSI' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21359988 en Sun, 19 May 2013 15:58:36 EDT Sun, 19 May 2013 15:58:36 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21374688 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21374688 Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:29:39 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21374663 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21374663 Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:23:28 EDT 12/2 Upgrade Available in Minneapolis, MN http://www.dslreports.com/forum/122-Upgrade-Available-in-Minneapolis-MN-21368032
$10/month Extra?! WOW]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/122-Upgrade-Available-in-Minneapolis-MN-21368032 Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:39:16 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21367824
I hear ya though... but with the luck I have, a POS that is being rented will last til the next iceage and I will have thrown hundreds away for nothing.

Decisions decisions... :huh:
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Told the rep that if they just upgraded the upstream to 5 MBit/s then I'd keep it.

Wonder how Comcast likes losing $10/month with all these people?!

-Kevin]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/122-Upgrade-Available-in-Derry-NH-21367797 Mon, 03 Nov 2008 09:44:21 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21365297 said by dadkins:

My SB5100 has ran without an issue for 5+ years.
I paid $59.99(after rebate) for it.I did the same thing when I bought my SB5100 in 2003. At $60 the break-even point is 20 months - pretty safe risk considering the modems come with a 1 year warranty (8 months of "exposure").

Due to the extra tuners, the D3 modems are unlikely to drop below $100 anytime soon. Let's say they do hit the store at $150 somehow, that's still 50 months (just over 4 years) just to break even and I believe the modems still only have the same 1 year warranty. So, if the modem kacks then your cost model is completely hosed.

Personally, I still am not optimistic that the first generation of multi-tuner cable modems is going to show the same level of reliability as our 5th generation single-tuner SB5100s.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21365297 Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:19:01 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21364921 I paid $59.99(after rebate) for it.
$3.00 per month x 5 years = $180
180 - $60 = $130 net saved.

So, with a starting point of $130, $200 is not that far of a leap.
No one has a timeline on when we can go to Best buy and pick up a Cisco or Moto D3 modem.
I will likely have enough to get one by the time D3 gets here and D3 modems go on sale.

Rent one, and the modem runs for years... it's like burning money. :(
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said by matthew330ci:

are you guys getting charged a ridiculous fee to change your level of service? i was told there would be some fee (I forget the amount) if I ever change my level of service.
$1.99 Change Of Service Charge...
The infamous $1.99 charge. LOL! Forgot about that wallet breaker. ;)

Thanks bud!
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... and for those of us that own our modems, this means new modem rental charges. No thanks!Given that the D3 modems are still in the $200-$300 range (multiple tuners + limited market availability bumps the costs up quite a bit), that $3/mo charge is a flat out bargain right now. Not to mention that equipment failures common in first generation models aren't your problem; if the modem kacks, Comcast just brings you out another one.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21364810 Sun, 02 Nov 2008 15:11:56 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21364109 supply and demand
difference of speeds in competing markets
future growth and past remainders

I think they have the right to offer what they want and we have the opportunity to purchase or decline purchase of said product]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21364109 Sun, 02 Nov 2008 12:20:12 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21363877 said by matthew330ci:

are you guys getting charged a ridiculous fee to change your level of service? i was told there would be some fee (I forget the amount) if I ever change my level of service.
$1.99 Change Of Service Charge...
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21363877 Sun, 02 Nov 2008 11:23:42 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21363871 said by Rob:

said by ztmike:

Just thought of something..maybe Comcast can go for 16/2 instead of 12/2 and current 16/2 users would be upgraded to 22/5, and 8/2 users would see the bump to 16/2-but pay the same price as users from the 6/1 tier.

That way everybody is happy and Comcast would be leading the way for speeds/pricing..

But we all know Comcast doesn't like making sense..so I doubt it will happen. :hmm:
22/5 requires a doc 3.0 modem. That's a lot of doc 3.0 modems.
... and for those of us that own our modems, this means new modem rental charges. No thanks!
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Just thought of something..maybe Comcast can go for 16/2 instead of 12/2 and current 16/2 users would be upgraded to 22/5, and 8/2 users would see the bump to 16/2-but pay the same price as users from the 6/1 tier.

That way everybody is happy and Comcast would be leading the way for speeds/pricing..

But we all know Comcast doesn't like making sense..so I doubt it will happen. :hmm:
22/5 requires a doc 3.0 modem. That's a lot of doc 3.0 modems.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21363635 Sun, 02 Nov 2008 10:25:31 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21363528
That way everybody is happy and Comcast would be leading the way for speeds/pricing..

But we all know Comcast doesn't like making sense..so I doubt it will happen. :hmm:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21363528 Sun, 02 Nov 2008 09:52:42 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21363122 said by matthew330ci:

are you guys getting charged a ridiculous fee to change your level of service? i was told there would be some fee (I forget the amount) if I ever change my level of service.
Not that I know of. I've changed back & forth for research reasons and did not notice any fees.
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said by Kearnstd:

16/2 is the highest they go on your current modem. to go for 22 and 50 tiers you have to rent their DOCSIS3 Cisco modem(atleast until moto puts the 6120 in a store near you).
how the hell do you figlure that?

most docsis1.1 builds will do 4-6 up and 20-30 down. Here in former insight land we are docsis 2.0 and it will do up to 10 up I have seen the speed tests before comcrap took over the area
because its company policy for the 22/5 and up tiers.
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how the hell do you figlure that?

most docsis1.1 builds will do 4-6 up and 20-30 down. Here in former insight land we are docsis 2.0 and it will do up to 10 up I have seen the speed tests before comcrap took over the areaComcast isn't going to provision 22mbps for a single user into a 38mbps channel. By policy, they'll only give you the 22mbps tier if they can use a D3 modem to balance your traffic across at least 3x38mbps downstream channels. So yes, while it is indeed possible for a D1.1/2.0 modem to do 20-30mbps downstream, it is highly unwise to provision it that way given the current subscriber loading of the downstream channels.

You'll find this out when you try to order the Ultra service once it becomes available. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21362636 Sun, 02 Nov 2008 01:30:37 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21362509 said by Kearnstd:

16/2 is the highest they go on your current modem. to go for 22 and 50 tiers you have to rent their DOCSIS3 Cisco modem(atleast until moto puts the 6120 in a store near you).
how the hell do you figlure that?

most docsis1.1 builds will do 4-6 up and 20-30 down. Here in former insight land we are docsis 2.0 and it will do up to 10 up I have seen the speed tests before comcrap took over the area]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21362509 Sun, 02 Nov 2008 00:32:38 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21362408 said by AVonGauss:

EG, I'm just sayin'... It sounds like people are confused about the change, maybe if it was 10/1 instead of 12/2 it would be more balanced and people would be more enthusiastic about the change... ;)
I'm agreein' with ya bud ! ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21362408 Sun, 02 Nov 2008 00:00:46 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21362390
P.S. Did I mention that I'm glad after this post that this board does not work on a karma system? I think I might get voted off the island if it did... ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21362390 Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:55:46 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21362355 said by voip_user:

I hope they also add 1/1, 4/1, 6/2, 8/2 for the same price as 12/2, it would give the consumer even more choices Yah, they could market those slower packages as DSL over Digital Voice. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21362355 Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:45:38 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21362354
AS a test of actual download pipe size/speed, I use the 100MB broadband download test on www.testmy.net With Powerboost working as well as it does on smaller downloads, you need a beefy test to see a more real-world number. Typically I am averaging about 10.5 Mbps according to their test.

SD1]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21362354 Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:44:32 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21362330 said by AVonGauss:

I don't know, it almost sounds like the consensus on this topic is that they raised the 6/1 tier higher than they needed...
SHHHHUSH .. :hmm:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21362330 Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:38:48 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21362301 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21362301 Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:30:47 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21362270 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21362270 Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:23:37 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21362246 said by Rob:

They should keep the 16/2 tier plan. Not because it makes sense, but because it gives the consumer an extra choice - and more choices is better than less choices.

Plus, it helps them compete in some markets.
I hope they also add 1/1, 4/1, 6/2, 8/2 for the same price as 12/2, it would give the consumer even more choices]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21362246 Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:15:19 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21362132
I think the 22/5 is very competitive at the 62.95 they're asking. 2 bucks and change a day for speeds like that seems to me to be a real bargain. Not sure yet whether i'll upgrade to it but it will be nice just to have the option to.
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16/2 is the highest they go on your current modem. to go for 22 and 50 tiers you have to rent their DOCSIS3 Cisco modem(atleast until moto puts the 6120 in a store near you).
Does this mean that it may be awhile little longer before Comcast upgrades their speeds again, assuming that there aren't as many DOCSIS3 modems out there as the current ones? I mean if speeds were upgraded farther than 16/2, everyone would have to get another modem from Comcast. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21362131 Sat, 01 Nov 2008 22:40:50 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21362118 said by dadkins:

said by EG:

said by dadkins:

When 6/1 gets kicked to 12/2, I'll be dropping back as well.
Doin' the same thing here daddio ! ;)
I can save the $10 per month for a D3 modem - if they ever sell them.
They better... I need the money!!! ;)
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is there a a thread here that would tell me when this comes into affect in my market? that is when comcast upgrades the 6mb tier to 12mb.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21361992 Sat, 01 Nov 2008 22:02:24 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21361976
You are not "already on the 12mb tier" just because you are seeing the effects of their Powerboost feature.

When you are upgraded to the 12/2 tier, you should still see the short lived effects of the Powerboost feature to double or more of those figures. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21361976 Sat, 01 Nov 2008 21:57:09 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21361929
I have the 6mb line with 12mb speed boost. Is comcast saying their upping the 6mb plan to 12mb? or are they saying its 12mb with speed boost- so essentially i would already be on the "12mb" tier?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21361929 Sat, 01 Nov 2008 21:43:57 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21361734 said by dadkins:

I can save the $10 per month for a D3 modem - if they ever sell them.
That's a great idea bud !! ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21361734 Sat, 01 Nov 2008 21:00:53 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21361646 --
[65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21361646 Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:41:26 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21361592 said by EG:

said by dadkins:

When 6/1 gets kicked to 12/2, I'll be dropping back as well.
Doin' the same thing here daddio ! ;)
I can save the $10 per month for a D3 modem - if they ever sell them.
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When 6/1 gets kicked to 12/2, I'll be dropping back as well.
Doin' the same thing here daddio ! ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21361463 Sat, 01 Nov 2008 19:56:10 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21361448 said by ztmike:

I'm trying to make sense of this..why would Comcast up the 6/1 tier to 12/2 but then keep the 16/2 tier at $10 bucks more? The poll on here which I'm not surprised really shows 12/2 is clearly the winner: »Poll....With the new tiers which will you subscribe to?

I think Comcast should drop the 16/2 and replace that tier with 22/5 and keep it the same price.

I think they are going to lose alot of customers on the 16/2 tier, unless 12/2 doesn't become a business tier also.
The tier would be a great alternative to have if the upload was increase to 3Mbps.

16/3Mbps would be a great alternative in between the 12 and the 22 tiers. The only problem I see with it is that the download is really not much of an incentive with blast over the 12 mbps tier. Most people that choose the higher tiers do not just choose it base on download. I know I would be sufficiently happy with 12Mbps for all my downloading needs. However, extra upload is always great for my gaming and other things which is why I was on a higher tier for a while.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21361448 Sat, 01 Nov 2008 19:51:57 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21361401 said by Cabal:

said by pandora:

People were happy to pay an extra $10 for an extra 2MB of download speed. Now they pay the same for twice as much and suddenly it isn't good enough.
Many/most people were paying $10 extra for double the upload speed. Now they're paying $10 extra for... not much. Already downgraded from 16/2 to 12/2 here, couldn't be happier.
That is all I wanted when I first started paying the $10 extra - back when it(upload) was 384k vs 256k.

When 6/1 gets kicked to 12/2, I'll be dropping back as well.
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Many/most people were paying $10 extra for double the upload speed. Now they're paying $10 extra for... not much. Already downgraded from 16/2 to 12/2 here, couldn't be happier.
I'm still happy with 6 / 1. :) 12 / 2 will be nice, but it my current Internet speed is sufficient.

Comcast has been pretty decent about this. Doubling speed and not really increasing costs. As you point out, many will get the same speed but save a bit.

I'm a satisfied Comcast HSI customer.
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People were happy to pay an extra $10 for an extra 2MB of download speed. Now they pay the same for twice as much and suddenly it isn't good enough.Many/most people were paying $10 extra for double the upload speed. Now they're paying $10 extra for... not much. Already downgraded from 16/2 to 12/2 here, couldn't be happier.
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Personally, it looks like a reasonable price tier / performance tier to me. I'm happy with 6 / 1 and will be delighted with 12 / 2 when it comes to my area.
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"People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21361329 Sat, 01 Nov 2008 19:19:57 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21360762 said by tshirt:

said by ztmike:

I think they are going to lose alot of customers on the 16/2 tier, unless 12/2 doesn't become a business tier also.
Which might be the end goal. This isn't available everywhere yet, so they may need to keep/grandfather existing tiers, until they can offer 12/2 or 22/5 everywhere.
I know its not available everywhere and won't be for a year or more still..its not even here yet where I am..

BUT I'm talking about the places that already have the new tiers. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21360762 Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:38:59 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21360708 said by ztmike:

I think they are going to lose alot of customers on the 16/2 tier, unless 12/2 doesn't become a business tier also.
Which might be the end goal. This isn't available everywhere yet, so they may need to keep/grandfather existing tiers, until they can offer 12/2 or 22/5 everywhere.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21360708 Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:23:44 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21360706
Plus, it helps them compete in some markets.
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CheckSite.us | YourIP.US ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21360706 Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:23:21 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21360692 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21360692 Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:18:10 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21360470 said by EG:

There may be a method to their madness ? ;)
I guess they are trying to have consistent tiers and priceing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21360470 Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:21:36 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21360386 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21360386 Sat, 01 Nov 2008 14:58:01 EDT Re: [Speed] 12/2 or 16/2..what is Comcast smoking? Seriously.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Speed-122-or-162what-is-Comcast-smoking-Seriously-21360049
????

Guess I will upgrade and pay less.
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