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st7860
join:2004-05-13
San Francisco, CA
3 edits | reply to Vomish7
Re: How Suprising....
teksavvy rents and resells bell facilities. if they choose to do so they could put their own equipment into bell's offices and the only bell facilities they need to 'rent' are the actual lines to the customers home or office. AND, if they had chosen to do it that way, there wouldn't be this fuss about throttling. bell can't throttle them if they were using their own leased lines instead of what amounts to buying in bulk from 'costco' and selling it retail.
Teksavvy is just like those companies that buy airtime off of Rogers Wireless and puts their name on it. Those companies don't own anything except a customer support/billing mechanism and so they are subject to the whims of their supplier, just like Teksavvy is subject to the whims of Bell. most people don't realise that Teksavvy is just a reseller of Bell services, and has only their own customer support, billing, mail servers, and so on.
that is why, especially in Ontario, switching ADSL companies is so easy, because most of them are tiny companies that rent bell service and resell it. | |
Sempronius
join:2008-09-18
Toronto, ON
1 edit | said by st7860  :teksavvy rents and resells bell facilities. if they choose to do so they could put their own equipment into bell's offices and the only bell facilities they need to 'rent' are the actual lines to the customers home or office. AND, if they had chosen to do it that way, there wouldn't be this fuss about throttling. bell can't throttle them if they were using their own leased lines instead of what amounts to buying in bulk from 'costco' and selling it retail. Teksavvy is just like those companies that buy airtime off of Rogers Wireless and puts their name on it. Those companies don't own anything except a customer support/billing mechanism and so they are subject to the whims of their supplier, just like Teksavvy is subject to the whims of Bell. most people don't realise that Teksavvy is just a reseller of Bell services, and has only their own customer support, billing, mail servers, and so on. that is why, especially in Ontario, switching ADSL companies is so easy, because most of them are tiny companies that rent bell service and resell it. st7860 is correct on all points made. If Primus Canada can set up their own DSLAM in Bell's CO so can TekSavvy and other companies. St7860 has duly indicated, TekSavvy has chosen only to rent lines and resell Bell's products, whereas, Primus Canada is a separate entity from Bell Canada altogether and sells their own services, not reselling Bell Canada's services.
Shark_615, using fowl language is not a friendly gesture to our neighbors south of the border who choose to participate in Canadian related issues. It's important to be a respecter of all persons, especially where matters of opinion are expressed in an open forum. | |
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TSI Rocky
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join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON
3 edits | said by Sempronius :said by st7860 :teksavvy rents and resells bell facilities. if they choose to do so they could put their own equipment into bell's offices and the only bell facilities they need to 'rent' are the actual lines to the customers home or office. AND, if they had chosen to do it that way, there wouldn't be this fuss about throttling. bell can't throttle them if they were using their own leased lines instead of what amounts to buying in bulk from 'costco' and selling it retail. Teksavvy is just like those companies that buy airtime off of Rogers Wireless and puts their name on it. Those companies don't own anything except a customer support/billing mechanism and so they are subject to the whims of their supplier, just like Teksavvy is subject to the whims of Bell. most people don't realise that Teksavvy is just a reseller of Bell services, and has only their own customer support, billing, mail servers, and so on. that is why, especially in Ontario, switching ADSL companies is so easy, because most of them are tiny companies that rent bell service and resell it. st7860 is correct on all points made. If Primus Canada can set up their own DSLAM in Bell's CO so can TekSavvy and other companies. St7860 has duly indicated, TekSavvy has chosen only to rent lines and resell Bell's products, whereas, Primus Canada is a separate entity from Bell Canada altogether and sells their own services, not reselling Bell Canada's services. Actually, that's false, you are both wrong as we don't resell the service. The copper and back-haul to Toronto is purchased from Bell, from there, for the Transit and equipment, we do that portion through others. If we were to be "resellers" as you describe it, you'd get support from Bell, IPs from Bell, modems from Bell, etc....
As for the statement about Primus and what they've done.... We had a meeting a few years back with Bell about working with them on a pricing scheme that would work out best for both Bell and us so that we could work together at growing our client-base. The alternative was that we did our own. They came back with two additional volume programs that were above the 7,500 tiers in the tariff... We've essentially had our agreement re-nagged on recently as they've highjacked our network/client-base...... Not cool.
Rocky
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