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1 edit | said by gurn :
Rocky does your company write a cheque to bell regularly? You guys are arguing about the definition of re-sale. Rogers is a re-sale of bell on the landline service, do they like it worded that way no, but Rogers cuts a cheque to Bell to use those telephone poles/lines etc. Bell also handles 411 for all phone companies in canada. So all companys re-sale bells 411?
Its a stupid argument that goes on and on. Bell's lines were put up with government help. Now that monopoly is over and we have competition. Bell hasn't invested in upgrades in almost 10 years, and its starting to show. Now they either need to throttle or they are lies and trying to stop the customer bleed. That's what the court case is about, that's what this post is about.
Arguing over what a resale is or isn't is just...pointless.
It's not that simple...
On the DSL Side:
Teksavvy colocates with Bell at 151 Front St. They pay Bell a large sum that includes both a static portion and per customer portion in order to have the traffic for TSI customers travel over the Bell Copper to either a CO or a Remote and from there to 151 Front St.
Once it hits 151 Front St. the traffic moves into servers fully owned and operated by TSI and is then routed via Peer1, Cogent etc.(this routing is separately arranged by TSI) to get out to the internet.
One possible option they could have (similar to Primus):
What they could do is on top of colocating at 151 Front St. they could also co-locate at COs. This would cost more but would likely avoid throttling for those customers that connect to COs.
On the other hand those customers that use Remotes would still be throttled. The devil is in the details, in that connecting via a CO is all fine and dandy but you can only serve so many customers via the COs (and in some cases actual customer speeds will degrade as they get farther and farther from the CO) and hence the need for Remotes but a lack of options to co-locate at remotes. (So in the case of Primus those customers served from COs where they colocate aren't throttled, others served from non-colo COs or Remotes are)
The Problem at hand:
This is the oversimplified path of a TSI urer's connection:
User Home----(Bell's Copper Wire)-----CO or Remote------(Bell Uplink)-----151 Front St. /TSI's OWN servers-----Peer1/Cogent etc.------Internet
The portion above that I have bolded is part of the Bell network that under the GAS regulation Bell is required to share (because of course the goverment subsidized its building over decades with taxpayer money)
The portion of that route that's in question and Bell claims to be congested is:
CO or Remote---------151 Front St.
Here is the problem: TSI pays Bell not in a general way to use that part of the network, but in a very specific way, for every Gigabit link. So if a company is paying you for 5 GigE links and you(Bell) accept the money, why do you (Bell) claim there is congestion. Either you have GigE links to offer or you don't. If you are congested it can only be if you are selling more GigE links than you actually have available (and pocketing money instead of building out the network to meet with what you have sold).
It's not about renting vs. owning equipment, it is about paying for something without getting what you paid for...
On the Phone Service Side:
Yes the Landline service (Home Phone) Teksavvy sells is an actual Bell resell. Features and LD (both from Bell) are actually re-priced at much better prices than Bell itself offers though.
A bit about Rogers since it was mentioned
The way Rogers offers phone service is rather complicated. In some areas (previous Sprint) they use the Bell Copper but likely co-locate phone equipment at the C0. In other ares they have started disconnecting Bell Copper altogehter and connecting the phone line to Rogers Cable. In the latter cases Rogers is a full-fledged provider handling the call from end-to-end.
Rogers has lately actively been changing customers to this digital Home Phone form (where they cut Bell out ofthe equation and connect to Cable directly) |
