koma3504
Advocate
Premium
join:2004-06-22
North Richland Hills, TX | reply to djrobx
Re: Caps come to ATT Reno,NV
Tnaks for that list It clarifies everything for the discussion |
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guhuna
R.I.P Mike
Premium
join:2001-03-31
Brentwood, CA | reply to djrobx
Based on that chart for elite, I would have to shell out an extra $20 a month for my dsl bill this month. |
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CBLMorphis
join:2001-02-25
Riverside, CA
 ·AT&T Yahoo
| reply to sneekez
When this happens, i'll drop AT&T in a heart beat. Both phone and DSL. I will not be ummm, analy raped and butt pounding in my butt because of it.
AT&T can kiss my butt.
80Gigs a month. What about people that play wow or guildwars or mmo's?
Comcast can offer 250Gigs a month.
AT&T, you have ruined your company, and screwed all of us old timers that been with you forever, and now it comes down too this. A screw in the butt. Thank you very much AT&T. I hope you read this and see your company is fail.
I will as many others stand by what I say, and you may not even care, well I dont care either. Bye, bye AT&T.
Screwball, idiot people. 
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Defcon888
Premium
join:2003-07-22
San Bruno, CA
·AT&T Yahoo
·DSL EXTREME
| said by CBLMorphis  :When this happens, i'll drop AT&T in a heart beat. Both phone and DSL. I will not be ummm, analy raped and butt pounding in my butt because of it. AT&T can kiss my butt. 80Gigs a month. What about people that play wow or guildwars or mmo's? Comcast can offer 250Gigs a month. AT&T, you have ruined your company, and screwed all of us old timers that been with you forever, and now it comes down too this. A screw in the butt. Thank you very much AT&T. I hope you read this and see your company is fail. I will as many others stand by what I say, and you may not even care, well I dont care either. Bye, bye AT&T. Screwball, idiot people. My whole house is set up to watch TV through the web, whether it be through low bandwidth or HD streams or illegal downloads. I gave up Cable TV and OTA and set up a computer and TV for each room many years ago and stuck by AT&T because it was cheaper than the alternative, had great service, and offered me unlimited bandwidth.
Now, I don't know what I should do...
Broadband is pointless with caps; I might as well go back to dialup and just use the internet for browsing news sites and checking e-mail. We're like taking a whole step back in terms of data communications; sooner or later there will be no more free-open web/content.
AT&T READ THIS: It would be great if you put a "Rollover" feature into these caps, like with ATT Wireless. Then I'd be a lot happier, because I don't use that much bandwidth EACH month. Otherwise, if you forced me to pay for unused bandwidth, I'd waste all that down to the last KB and have it auto disconnect the day before the new billing cycle starts.
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Madtown
join:2008-04-26
Madera, CA
| reply to sneekez
Websites will always be free, I don't think it will ever cost us money to go to them, now maybe becoming a member of some websites might cost money, but as far as just going to them, won't cost money. Besides don't they make money from those ads you see on top of their pages? |
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btB
@sbcglobal.net
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Scumbags at AT&T will probably start loading their browser & webpages with heavy multimedia content. Oh by the way, don't you want to watch ESPN360? Of course they will say things like this gives the user a better experience, but we know better. They want everybody over the cap. Whoops, that extra email from AT&T means you are over. Sorry, that online chat puts you over. We can help it that our ad banners wastes all your bandwidth this month. What should we expect from the phone company who can add phony charges to your phone bill just because they can? Behavior like this, of course. |
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zeelurker
join:2003-07-22
Canada | reply to sneekez
If they implement stingly caps like that in my neighborhood, I'm cancelling both DSL and my phone service. |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
 ·PHONE POWER
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T CallVantage
·Time Warner VOIP
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to Defcon888
quote:
My whole house is set up to watch TV through the web, whether it be through low bandwidth or HD streams or illegal downloads. I gave up Cable TV and OTA and set up a computer and TV for each room many years ago and stuck by AT&T because it was cheaper than the alternative, had great service, and offered me unlimited bandwidth.
That's exactly what AT&T is trying to put a stop to. They're a TV provider now. They want you to pay $45 per month or more for TV service.
Legal or illegal, they don't want to just get some small flat rate from you to run video content to your home, when they offer relatively expensive services that do the same thing. |
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NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| said by djrobx :That's exactly what AT&T is trying to put a stop to. They're a TV provider now. I have told people in the Comcast forum that the difference between Comcast and AT&T is that Comcast is an entertainment service (you know, I finally figured out what "MSO" stands for: "Media Service Operator"), not a communications company.
Alas, AT&T has actually gone over to the "Dark Side"! (And given truth to the claim about the "Death Star" logo!)
Are there no ISPs left? Companies which merely provide a "pipe" to the Internet, and have no interest in what is flowing trough the "pipe"?
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~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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joako
Premium
join:2000-09-07
/dev/null
·AT&T U-Verse
| said by NormanS :Are there no ISPs left? Companies which merely provide a "pipe" to the Internet, and have no interest in what is flowing trough the "pipe"? Level3 Communications will gladly work with you for that sort of arrangement.
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Defcon888
Premium
join:2003-07-22
San Bruno, CA
·AT&T Yahoo
·DSL EXTREME
| I wonder if they will enforce caps on Small Business DSL..
I wouldn't mind matching my cable company's price/mo for unmetered broadband because I prefer "watching on demand" my foreign and international shows.
The only reason why I don't subscribe to cable or sat or watch OTA is because mostly everything here is garbage..
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guhuna
R.I.P Mike
Premium
join:2001-03-31
Brentwood, CA | reply to NormanS
Yes, actually. Covad.net (already switched to) is one and Megapath is another. |
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Boricua65
join:2002-01-26
Puerto Rico | Hmmm, I may give them a try if/when the Evil Empire starts imposing caps in my area.
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Yo te digo, el mundo esta jodido |
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NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| reply to joako
said by joako :Level3 Communications will gladly work with you for that sort of arrangement. The question is, why should AT&T, or Comcast, care what is on the wire? It seriously appears that they are driven by the desires of the providers of programming to their entertainment divisions. That is, the providers of the TV programming want these so-called ISPs to squelch certain content which competes with their own revenue streams.
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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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zeelurker
join:2003-07-22
Canada
| said by NormanS :said by joako :Level3 Communications will gladly work with you for that sort of arrangement. The question is, why should AT&T, or Comcast, care what is on the wire? It seriously appears that they are driven by the desires of the providers of programming to their entertainment divisions. That is, the providers of the TV programming want these so-called ISPs to squelch certain content which competes with their own revenue streams. In this case, I get the impression that Comcast & ATT want to strong arm customers into using their services as an "entertainment portal". Obviously, limiting bandwidth at such levels means they can save money upgrading their networks at a slower pace. However, I suspect the primary reasons behind these bandwidth caps are that:
1. Low bandwidth caps discourages customers from cutting back on Cable TV services
2. These "MSO's" would also have the ability to sell their own products at higher prices as "Bandwidth Free". The bandwidth you use purchasing downloadable movies from an MSO duopoly wouldn't count against your bandwidth cap, whereas using other downloadable and streaming sources such as netflix, hulu or even youtube the bandwidth does count. Why else would they charge a high fee like $1 per GB for going over the cap? |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
·PHONE POWER
·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T CallVantage
·Time Warner VOIP
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to sneekez
Max 18 same as Max |
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AT&T U-Hearse
Your funeral. Delivered.
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joako
Premium
join:2000-09-07
/dev/null
·AT&T U-Verse
| reply to NormanS
said by NormanS :said by joako :Level3 Communications will gladly work with you for that sort of arrangement. The question is, why should AT&T, or Comcast, care what is on the wire? It seriously appears that they are driven by the desires of the providers of programming to their entertainment divisions. That is, the providers of the TV programming want these so-called ISPs to squelch certain content which competes with their own revenue streams. They don't. The caps aren't "20gb for P2P and online video"
I am sure you can reach the cap sending and receiving large emails via your AT&T email and browsing and uploading to your personal web space.
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NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| Verizon, and some of the smaller ISPs, really don't seem to care at all. No caps. Qwest also implemented caps shortly after introducing their IPTV product. Seems odd that TV service seems to trigger the caps.
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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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spg
Grrrr
join:2001-10-31
NOT Texas!
| reply to sneekez
You'll get a warning when you hit the cap and then some time to adjust your usage.
Metered usage will soon be the norm for all the providers. Right now they're just trying to figure out how to do it and they're all doing it for the same reason... more data in the pipe and the pipe aint growing.If you're consuming a large chunk of bandwidth that could serve more customers and therefore earn more money they see you as a "problem". Either they get you out of their pipe or raise money to build bigger ones. (Yeah, it's a profit thing and as I mentioned, it's not limited to AT&T.) |
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Madtown
join:2008-04-26
Madera, CA | reply to sneekez
Once the caps are roll out to AT&T I better see faster speed before 3:30pm PST on weekdays and after my dinner on Sundays....or whenever there less people online that is. |
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